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This article discusses the demographics of inceldom.

Race[edit | edit source]

Although involuntary celibates are often stereotyped as white, polls and surveys suggest otherwise. This poll from braincels shows that whites constitute only 28% of that forums population, with the largest racial demographic being currycel. The largest poll by incels.co showed that only 50% of its members were white[1], which is quite small for a Western web forum. Social Anxiety Support by comparison is about 99% white.

According to a peer-reviewed study, the stereotype that incels.co is mostly white is incorrect. The paper stated, "It is impossible to say whether the majority of Incels.me users are white men, but our data implies that this may be less true than expected". "However, there is one major and important difference to other [...] communities: The community is more heterogeneous than other [...] communities, because users are not united by a common goal, but by a feature that its individuals share, i.e., not being able to engage in social and/or sexual contacts". "There is no definite evidence that Incels.me users are predominantly white, contrary to what is often reported about incels"[2]

Economic and education status[edit | edit source]

The economic background of incels appears to be very diverse. A survey from the incel forum incels.co reports 59% middle class, 33.8% lower class, and 7.2% upper class (N = 550).[3] Further, 50% had a high school degree (or are in high schooll), 38.8% college and 11.2% graduate school.[4] These data are not necessarily representative of incels overall. Data from Germany suggest that university students are possibly around twice as likely to never have had sex, and further supports the notion that incels have diverse socioeconomic backgrounds.

Number of incels in the U.S.[edit | edit source]

Share of American young adults in stable partnerships has been cut almost a third to 49%

Sexless men between 18 and 30 are on the rise according to the Washington Post using data from the U.S. nationally representative General Social Survey (GSS).[5] GSS data also shows that among today's 18 to 34 year olds, 51% have no stable partner, up from 35% in 1986.[6] Further, roughly 30% of millennials are often or always lonely and 22% have no friends which likely overlaps inceldom because a sex partner would count as companionship or a friend.

The 95% confidence interval for men who did not have sex in the past year aged 18-30 is 20%-34% (N = 137). Combining data from 2016 and 2018, one finds an estimate of 24% (N = 311, 95% CI: 19%, 29%). A study by Poortman and Liebroer found that only roughly 4% of singles preferred their singlehood over being in a relationship.[7] Further, only 1% of the population self-identify as asexual.[8] Provided that sex is regarded as the most satisfying and joyous experience, it seems implausible that many would voluntarily forgo sex. Hence, accounting for volcels, the percentage of incels among millennials is likely a bit less than the sexless, so likely roughly between 15% and 30%, likely a bit higher as of 2019. With 57 million millennial males, this amounts to 8-17 million millennial incels, and 2-3 as many in an unstable or no relationship.

This reasoning has, of course, various limitations. For one, singles who reported to prefer their singlehood in Poortman & Liebroer could be having casual sex otherwise. Also, men who see prostitutes have sex, but may still count as incels. Conversely, men in long-distance relationships, religious men or very career-focused men might voluntarily forgo sex, hence might rather count as volcels or temporarycels. On the other hand, one could question whether systemic circumstances pressure men into these situations, which could then count as involuntary. Today, people might involuntarily marry much later as a consequence of cultural, economic and environmentalist pressures forcing them to do so. Indeed, career-focused singles tend to report they focus on their career because they are single rather than vice-versa.[9]

More sexless men than women[edit | edit source]

Combining survey years 2016 and 2018 for female millennials, one finds fewer incels, only 17% (N = 337, 95% CI: 13%, 21%), which is significantly different from men (X² = 4.6, p = 0.03). Including year 2014, it becomes more significant (X² = 6.3, p = 0.01, 21% M vs 15% W). This is likely mainly due to women getting into relationships earlier (in their prime years) and dating older men, and possibly due to open relationships, polyamory, serial monogamy, harems, online dating and other forms of de facto polygamy, i.e. Chads getting more of the pie. Both young men and women have overall less sex today, but sex has likely become more unequally distributed for both sexes, with especially the most sexually active men getting more sex than ever. The strongest effects are however in sexlessness overall, less stable relationships and later marriage.

Commentary - Hatfield and Clark[edit | edit source]

Some say general rates of celibacy should not be used as rates for inceldom among people. While this may be true for women... for men, celibacy rates and inceldom rates should be very similar. The assumption that almost all young men would rather have sex than not, in any given day, is heavily supported by science. As mentioned earlier, A study by Poortman and Liebroer found that only roughly 4% of singles are volcels, i.e. singles who stated to prefer their singlehood[10] Another notable study is the academic Hatfield and Clark study of college students[11]. Certain students were asked to randomly approach members of the opposite gender if they wanted to have sex right now. Women accepted the casual sex offers 0% percent of the time in that study. While men accepted the casual sex offers 75% of the time when the offer was the most direct while the rest of the men apologized or gave valid excuses. This is just when men were asked at random by a random women too. The number would be even higher for both genders in less casual circumstances most likely.

Sex Tents[edit | edit source]

Some feminists have claimed to reject (whatever rejected means in the face of such blatant facts) the methodology of the Hatfield and Clark study stating that the women do not know if they will orgasm or not and they do not know the men. It is not that brilliant of an observation though, as we already know women would have male-like acceptance of casual sex offers if the male offering were a celebrity. Women like status[12]. A lot. Van Halen had fucking sex tent[13] set up at his performances. The stadium janitor goes home jacking off to gangbang porn while crying.

Commentary - a majoritarian issue, particularly for men[edit | edit source]

Statistics mentioned above suggests inceldom is something that primarily affects men. Inceldom rates have been growing for both singletons and married men while it has remained stable for women. According to the General Social Survey (GSS) data, a greater share of men are sexless, both among wedders and nonwedders.[14]

With inceldom near tripling in a decade and steady partnerships almost cut in half for those btw 18-35ish as shown above, we can see that inceldom issues are approaching a majoritarian issue. But with 51% of young adults without a partner, we can safely conclude that the amount of people sympathetic to incels due to their own situation may now be a majority of young adults.

Commentary - celibate marriedcels[edit | edit source]

The strangest anomaly within this data is that married women have more sex than married men. Which begs the question, are married women cheating more, or are married men becoming willful cucks?

Earlier studies[edit | edit source]

There exist earlier studies showing smaller rates of inceldom.

Professor Simon DeDeo estimated there were 700,000 incels in the U.S for men over 25 years old,[15] while for those over 18, the number is 1.3 million.[16] Among American vicenarians, women were 10% more sexually active than men.[17]

Brian Gilmartin in the 1980s estimated that 1.5% of all American men are incelibate, estimating them at 4.7 million people. [18]

A 2012 report by The Centers for Disease Control claimed that within the past year roughly six per cent of men ages 25 to 44 have not had any sexual partners. The Washington Post correlated this figure within inceldom; thus making roughly 6% of that age group virginal incelibates (per Washington Post).[19]

This graph from Lyman Stone of the Institute for Family Studies that shows that male 12-month celibacy between the ages of 22-35 grew to around 14% of young men as of 2016. [20]

Other countries[edit | edit source]

China[edit | edit source]

China (as well as India) have some of the largest surplus of males and hence a huge number of male incels which is thought to even aggravate in the coming decades and is thought to become a substantial threat to social stability. The Washington Post produced an article with impressive visualizations of the problem.[21]

Finland[edit | edit source]

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The rate of sexlessness increased and the rate of masturbation decreased in recent years, affecting especially among men aged 30-40.[22] Further, the number of young men having more than two sex partners decreased for men, but remained stable for women (see figure on the right). More figures and discussion of the study, see this forum thread.[23]

Germany[edit | edit source]

See also: Absolute Beginners#Demographics

For Germany, there is no comparable data to the GSS. Some sources claim inceldom affects twice as many males as females with 10 percent and 5 percent respectively, however the source of this claim remains dubious.[citation needed][24] Older data from 2008 suggested that among 18-30 year olds, 60.4% of men and 35.6% of women were singles, largely due to women marrying men who are older than themselves, and due to very young men lack the ability to provide who indeed make up the majority of singles.[25] Interestingly, these figures are similar to GSS in 2018 as discussed above.

A survey from 2008 by „Neon“ estimated the number of ABs aged 20-35 to be 4% of women and 6% of men.[26] Much higher numbers than this were found for student ABs in 1996. Among students groups aged 18-30, 7.5% of women but 13.7% of men never had sex. Among ages 28-30, 8.4% of men never had sex, but only 2% of women (p = 0.003).

ABs have a diverse range of professional and economic backgrounds.[27]

India[edit | edit source]

Similar to the rest of the world, young men suffer far higher rates of inceldom than women. Whereas as women usually lose their virginity during their teens, men are more likely to lose it in their twenties in India. Statistics also show that the rates of inceldom for men are higher in the south of India than the north.[28]

Norway[edit | edit source]

One Norwegian study showed "the proportion of childless men (at age 40 years) has increased rapidly for Norwegian male cohorts from 1940 to 1970 (from 15 to 25 per cent). For women, it has only increased marginally (from 10 to 13 per cent)." Personality traits have also become increasingly important for male fertility.[29] As in the other countries, the result points to a greater prevalence of male incels than female incels.

Demographics of incel forums[edit | edit source]

See also: Incel forums demographics

incels.co[edit | edit source]

The currently largest incel forum incels.co conducted two surveys so far of its userbase. 59.5% of users were between 18-25 years old and few are younger. 22.5% have had sex. 56.1% were White/Caucasian.[30]

/r/braincels[edit | edit source]

In agreement with the result above, around 55% of incels on /r/braincels were Caucasian.[31]

See Also[edit | edit source]

References[edit | edit source]

  1. https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-daily-telegraph-telegraph-magazine/20180818/282213716666395
  2. http://www.organisms.be/downloads/incels.pdf
  3. https://incels.co/threads/survey-results-for-october-2019.147774/
  4. https://incels.co/threads/survey-results-for-october-2019.147774/
  5. https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/03/29/share-americans-not-having-sex-has-reached-record-high/
  6. https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2019/03/21/its-not-just-you-new-data-shows-more-than-half-young-people-america-dont-have-romantic-partner
  7. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ssresearch.2010.03.012
  8. https://health.usnews.com/health-news/health-wellness/articles/2015/05/04/asexuality-the-invisible-orientation
  9. https://www.springer.com/de/book/9783658059231
  10. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ssresearch.2010.03.012
  11. https://www.sciencefriday.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/gender-differences-in-receptivity-to-sexual-offers.pdf
  12. https://doi.org/10.1017/S0140525X00029939
  13. https://www.cracked.com/article_22900_van-halens-sex-hut-8-acts-legendary-rockstar-debauchery.html
  14. https://ifstudies.org/blog/male-sexlessness-is-rising-but-not-for-the-reasons-incels-claim
  15. http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/the-world-of-american-hikikomori.html
  16. http://simondedeo.com/?p=221
  17. https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1101592/the-great-sex-recession-celibate-americans-at-record-high
  18. https://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/72931916/One-of-the-internets-most-reviled-subcultures
  19. https://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/72931916/One-of-the-internets-most-reviled-subcultures
  20. http://archive.is/y1YBg
  21. https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/world/too-many-men/
  22. https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/14163-nationwide-sex-survey-finds-increase-in-masturbation-decrease-in-sex.html
  23. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/a4pxdd/interesting_finnish_recurring_surveybased_study/
  24. https://www.srf.ch/wissen/mensch/absolute-beginner-leben-ohne-liebe-und-partner
  25. https://www.springer.com/de/book/9783658059231
  26. https://www.springer.com/de/book/9783658059231
  27. https://www.springer.com/de/book/9783658059231
  28. https://www.livemint.com/Politics/RC0cvSgItInzrPBjAZ3f2L/Sex-in-India-What-data-shows.html
  29. https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience/comments/dtzvhk/the_proportion_of_childless_men_at_age_40_years/
  30. https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Incel_forums_are_disproportionately_populated_by_suicidal.2C_disabled.2C_autistic.2C_and_ethnic_men
  31. https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Incel_forums_are_disproportionately_populated_by_suicidal.2C_disabled.2C_autistic.2C_and_ethnic_men