Women in STEM
Women in STEM is a meme pushed by technocratic feminists to increase female power and representation in I.T. There is controversy in the incelosphere about this, with some incels excited by the idea of having women to talk to about nerdy hobbies. Others claim that having higher amounts of women in STEM workplaces increases potential dating opportunities for incels. In contrast, most tradcon incels are vehemently against the idea.
Social engineering[edit | edit source]
There is a reasonably strong desire in feminist, liberal developed countries to bring more women into STEM fields. One tactic has been letting any woman with arms into any low-level tech job, which, of course, causes issues. Other tactics have consisted of campaigns to encourage "girls who code." Proponents include Karlie Kloss, Hillary Clinton, the entire U.S. Democratic Party, various tech boot camps, and various documentaries such as Code Girl Movie.
Gender ratio and STEMcel rates[edit | edit source]
There don't exist any studies on the effect of co-ed workplaces or classes on incel rates. The following is some indirect evidence:
Pro evidence: Students at co-ed schools seem to be slightly more successful with the opposite sex. According to a study by Ivy Wong, students in single-sex classes report later onset of dating experience and fewer dating partners than members of co-ed classes, however the effect sizes were small (s_d d = 0.2). In most other measures of sexual activity, there were no significant effects. A similar study by Ivy Wong demonstrated that students from single-sex classes report more anxiety around the opposite gender than students from co-ed classes, again with a small effect size (d = 0.26). Men from mixed schools also had more close friends of the opposite gender, with a moderate effect size (d = .47). These studies only concern averages, so it is not clear who benefits (potentially only high-status males as discussed below). In the Donnelly Study, some incels reported gender segregation at work and lack of exposure to females in general as a cause of their celibacy, especially among male incels. A study of Redditors found lack of exposure to the opposite gender as the ~9th most common cause of their singledom (not necessarily inceldom) and 4.70% of all responses. On incels.co, 37.7% reported they are locationcels (see causes of inceldom).
Con evidence: On the other hand, most STEM jobs are fairly high-status positions. Hence, such women are expected to become more choosy about other men's incomes (see hypergamy), primarily due to the highly competitive nature and chaotic growth of the field. Besides, with metoo and other anti-harassment measures, the workplace is becoming unpopular for dating, e.g. "meeting through coworkers" has declined 50% since 1990 despite decreasing gender segregation. Today, as many as 28% of men avoid one-on-one meetings with female work colleagues. Many workplaces actively discourage romances. Also, even though sex-segregation has decreased, incel rates are at all-time high (see demographics), which is the opposite trend on would expect if mixed sexed would help alleviating the incel epidemic. Presence of females might be a detriment for the romantic success of omega males because males engage in more bullying and punishing in the presence of females. Jordan Peterson mentioned an anecdote in which only few male university students got to have sexual relationships despite a surplus of female students. In some incel forums, incels also lamented that they have many female coworkers, but are ignored by them.
Choosy maters[edit | edit source]
High earning women in STEM turn into particularly choosy maters and in a sexual free market are generally reluctant to date less educated men unless they earn substantially more (see hypergamy), hence often turn into bitter singles who end up coping on /r/childfree.
Women as "pioneers in STEM"[edit | edit source]
Feminists hold up female engineers such as Margaret Hamilton, as 'powerful' examples of women being "pioneers". These feminists usually ignore the fact that these women were still only a tiny minority. They also ignore that engineering such as computer engineering was not seen as proper academic work, but subordinate to physics and mathematics. Also early computer engineering had an overlap with data entry and textile work, which were traditionally female domains.
Many of these women often also received substantial male aid and patronage, or were even posthumously given credit for work they didn't play a large role in by eager feminists, e.g., Ada Lovelace, who is often claimed to be the first computer programmer in history, was likely predated by her confidant Charles Babbage in this accomplishment as he constructed the machine, and there is no actual evidence that she contributed in any substantial way to Babbage's work in this regard. Moreover, she only published minor theoretical works which were never put into practice. Actress Hedy Lamarr is often claimed to have invented important aspects of WiFi, when in fact she herself admitted she did only 'creative work on the invention,' while the composer and author, George Antheil, 'did the really important part, 'also not even being able to elaborate on the technicalities. Rosalind Franklin is frequently claimed to have helped to discover DNA, but she was mocking the idea of helical DNA and was uncooperative. Even the unquestionably most distinguished female scientist in history, Marie Curie-Skłodowska (a 2 time Nobel prize winner), is less eminent in regards to encyclopedia entries and academic citations, than her husband and colleague Pierre Curie, according to the author Charles Murray.
Tradcons[edit | edit source]
Tradcons have suggested that, with their generally higher agreeableness (at least in terms of superficial 'niceness'), women entering the sciences have multiplied bureaucracy and "safe spaces" preventing men from getting things done. It is also argued that their mere presence may act as a distraction to their mostly male colleges, the Nobel laureate and biochemist Tim Hunt, father of two daughters, caused considerable controversy by commenting on this grievance:
Let me tell you about my trouble with girls … three things happen when they are in the lab … You fall in love with them, they fall in love with you and when you criticize them, they cry.
Developing countries[edit | edit source]
The share of females in STEM is higher in developing countries than in developed countries. This is commonly known as the so-called 'gender-equality paradox', where more gender egalitarian countries are often seen to exhibit more substantial sexual dimorphism in several occupational, physiological, and behavioral outcomes compared to less egalitarian countries. For example, Fryer and Levitt (2010) found less of a gender gap in mathematics PISA scores in Middle-Eastern countries than Western countries.
Other studies have also provided further evidence for this, finding that gender gaps in academic performance are greater in more developed nations. Other research has provided further support for the 'gender equality paradox' hypothesis, finding that in two-thirds of countries women have equal performance in high school science, but that far fewer women chose to engage in college-level STEM study than one would expect given their high school science and mathematics performance. The largest gender gaps in terms of female enrollment in college-level STEM subjects are found in the Nordic countries of Finland, Norway and Sweden, which are commonly known for their feminist and progressive governments and culture.
This seemingly paradoxical greater representation of women in STEM in more traditional societies is seen as possibly born from economic necessity, and it may also stem from the parental restriction of women's career choices. Since people in these countries often have more salient immediate survival concerns and a stronger incentive to escape poverty compared to developed countries, it can represent a sound economic investment to induce a talented daughter to enter a potentially high paying STEM career path.
Whereas when women are given more agency to choose their own course of study, many appear to gravitate towards degrees that are likely generally less beneficial to one's future employment prospects, such as 'intersectional feminist studies', or other academic subjects that women may generally have a greater aptitude for, or prefer engaging with, compared to men. Academic affirmative action may also provide further incentives for women to participate in these type of studies.
This evidence essentially implies that women's lack of representation in STEM fields in Western countries is mostly down to their choice of college major, with women tending to avoid STEM subjects. It is also possible that feminism (if one strictly defines this as the legal and social equality of women to men) serves to decrease the number of women in STEM.
Affirmative action failure arguments[edit | edit source]
Even though Western countries have invested billions of dollars in furthering female education, women's intellectual output relative to men's does not seem to have increased to meaningful extent. Progress is largely made by a tiny group of individuals, which are nearly entirely men, as was always the case. Notably, gender-progressive countries do not have a relative greater level of female achievement than less gender-progressive ones.
Affirmative action is naturally exploited by entryists, ideologues, conmen, and other psychopaths, as well as nepotists seeking to extend their range of influence. It lead to perhaps the greatest fraud in the history of the Silicon Valley tech bomb. There are also countless of examples of female token CEOs running their business into the ground and female CEOs are 45% more likely to be fired. Women with such a career are also frequently miserable due to their hypergamy and being biologically unsuitable for leadership. Affirmative action also likely decreases the net performance of such institutions as female professors often benefit from affirmative action policies in socially progressive countries.
In the early 20th century, Otto Weininger predicted an all encompassing "women's movement" would drag too many women into the sciences and arts who have not much real capability or interest in these male spaces. He further noted only a tiny minority of masculine, 'sexually inverted' (lesbian or transsexual) women could approach genius and male interest in ideas. Instead of what he argued was the typical feminine state of merely embodying sexuality and being chiefly concerned with satisfying their lust or the rearing of children. Edward Dutton suggested only highly religious women are suitable for the sciences.
Memes[edit | edit source]
References[edit | edit source]
- Murray, C. 2003. Human Accomplishment: The Pursuit of Excellence in the Arts and Sciences, 800 B.C. to 1950. pp 126.
- " Sex differences in PISA: Some counterintuitive results." Speaker: Gerhard Meisenberg http://healthdocbox.com/Psychology_and_Psychiatry/72815349-London-conference-on-intelligence-2016.html
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