True Forced Loneliness
Manosphere Subpage Navigation
[Click to Open/Close]
True Forced Loneliness also known as TFL, is a vlogging community which formed in 2008 and was promoted by the three youtubers: William 'Bill' Greathouse (bill1224601), Dwayne Holloway (chisma), and Steve Hoca. It began as a singular vlogging group with a website that described their philosophy at trueforcedloneliness.com. A member of the TFL movement is called a TFLer. Many of the younger TFLers have since the mid-2010s begun using the terms TFL and inceldom interchangeably. Around 2008, three years after Youtube began, they began to making videos discussing inceldom, while using Youtube as a platform. All three original TFLers eventually split ways, and still make videos today except for Dwayne Holloway who started a campaign against William Greathouse before he left Youtube. Since then, at least 16 Youtube vloggers have self-identified and built a channel around the TFL label since 2008.
Demographics[edit | edit source]
Looking back, as a whole TFL is best thought of as the beginning of vlogging on Youtube in the English incelosphere. It centered around Steve Hoca's friends/fans and later Kent's friends/fans, and their vlogging style. Most modern TFL vloggers can be categorized as either an incelibate or MGTOW vlogger in addition to being a TFL vlogger. The only differences between TFL and incelibate communties are that many antecedent TFLers tend to be mostly unaware of the term "incel" or the incelosphere, lean toward a MGTOW perspective and vlogging style more often than incels, use poorer recording techniques and advertizement, and are mostly non-white. In contrast to self-identified TFLers, self-identified incel vloggers tend to be white more often.
Modern TFL[edit | edit source]
TFLers that existed past the original formation of TFL include
- Baraka Tivo also known as Baraka McKray (retired, then committed suicide in 2018 by setting himself on fire)
- Blaze1, also known as Infinite1, active 2013-2015 (retired)
- Oreo Man, also known as SavvyGuy, active 2008-2017 (retired)
- JamiltheKing, active 2013-2018 (retired)
- Kent, also known as KentTV, active 2013-2018 (retired)
- HeedandSucceed, active 2014-2018(active)
- Samuel Maxwell, active 2015-2018(active)
- William Greathouse, active 2008-2018(active)
- Steve Hoca 2008-2018(semi-active)
- LFA 2018-2018(active)
- Kickspassion ?-2018(active)
- Hell by the Dashboard Light ?-2018(active)
- BigBossCalvin83 ?-2018(active)
- Red Pill Rage 2017-2018(active)
- Tahlia 2018-now(active)
Original TFL[edit | edit source]
Back in 2008, TFL was a relatively anti-feminist. The three original TFLers were very often mocked – especially by forums, like Sherdog Off Topic forums (usually referred to OT). The TFLers generally blamed society instead of the individual for their dating predicaments.
Original TFL Philosophy[edit | edit source]
TFL is the early version of what would become the anti-feminist version of Incel. No ideas on incels.is are new – only the wording is new. Bill tended to be the more conspiracy theorist-related one. Dwayne tended to be the more "nice guy"-related one. Steve tended to dislike how women have more sexual choice than men. To combine the trio, you would get the victim-complex from Bill, the humanism of Dwayne, and the anti-feminism of Steve.
Video Archives[edit | edit source]
Most of the very first TFL videos from the 3 original TFLers from 2008-2009 have been lost forever, however a few have been reuploaded on the following channel: click here
Sodini[edit | edit source]
Other themes of TFL included sympathizing with George Sodini, who was the 2009 Collier Township shooter, shooting up a women's dance class because he couldn't get laid in 19 years or find a girlfriend in 25 years. George was an incel shooter who probably never heard of the word incel nor was there any evidence he used incel forums of watched TFL vlogs.
In one video at the 24 second mark, William Greathouse said this: "there was no fucking excuse for George Sodini to have to spend his life alone." As with some posts at alt.support.shyness, there were some who sympathized with killers on youtube. Unfortunately, now, this has turned into praising of killers by some users on less moderated incel sites.
Site[edit | edit source]
True Forced Loneliness Website Archive: