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(→‎Brooke Jenkins: "only really" is non-scientific phrasing, if you look at the actual numbers it shows the heightpill consistently affects EVERY category, albeit not as extremely as we might think (possibly due to design flaws in study))
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Although the pattern is consistent, the difference is underwhelming to those who consider height to have a larger impact.
Although the pattern is consistent, the difference is underwhelming to those who consider height to have a larger impact.
:[[User:Bibipi]] for example [[Special:diff/46076|was distressed]] about some sort of "d = .22 less than tall people" for the extremely short, although it's unclear how he got that number. He talks about <4'11" yet that was not the parameters of the "very short" in Brooke's study. Men below 5'2" were not even surveyed in it, and 12.0 minus 9.4 is a difference of average partner count of 2.6 not 0.22.


One interesting thing to notice about the sampling Jenkins did is she highly over-sampled "tall" men (at 40% this is higher than the 33% "average" men) and under-sampled "short" men (only 9%)
One interesting thing to notice about the sampling Jenkins did is she highly over-sampled "tall" men (at 40% this is higher than the 33% "average" men) and under-sampled "short" men (only 9%)

Revision as of 00:32, 2 January 2022

The heightpill (a subset of the blackpill) is the realization that females prefer men who are much taller than average, that a man's height is a hard limit to his attractiveness, and that females feel visceral disgust toward manlets.

Intro

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Originating from the biological needs of femoids, it concludes that manlets (men who rank in the bottom half in terms of height) are heavily disadvantaged in dating unless they have a Chad face or have high status. This is because women are sexual gatekeepers and their near universal natural preference for tall men means that dating down in height is nearly impossible for men in a society that encourages natural female sexuality. For the depraved female species, the manlet cutoff might as well be under 6 foot even, thanks to hypergamy.

Origins

Social constructionists like to explain heightism by norms, namely by the malle-taller-norm. However, an evolutionary explanation would be that the taller male will on average be stronger and better able to ward off physical threats (bodyguard hypothesis).[1] However, women also adhere to a male-not-too-tall norm,[2] possibly because large age differences being frowned upon in Western culture, possibly due to female rape hysteria and egalitarian ideals, or because it is just out of the ordinary and people generally prefer to blend in.

Tallfaggot advantage in online dating

Stating your height in an online dating profile could fuck you over badly if you’re a manlet. According to a particular dating app, firstmet, the ideal height related to most matches in males was 6’2” (188 cm). Specifically, they said:

A man who is 6’2″ is 17% more likely to be contacted than a man of average height of 5’8″ (173 cm) and 57% more likely to be contacted than a man under 5’5” (165 cm).[3]

If you are under 5'6", you are exponentially less attractive than average men

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In a study on humans published in Animal Studies, it was shown that men who are between 5'3" (160 cm) and 5'6" (168 cm) are anywhere from 3–10 times less attractive than average height men, solely because of their height.[4]

Bluepill argument on Heightmatching

The Bluepill argument against the heightpill is that the male-female height difference is platonic at 15cm[5] or 6in[6]. CoffeeMeetsBagel[7] reflects this sentiment as well.

Female reaction to manlets on social media

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The twitter account[8] commonly showed how judgemental women are toward manlets, even being distrustful of their personality or intentions just because they’re vertically disadvantaged.

FHO’s don’t even see us as worthy of any respect.

Manlet disadvantage in dating and even betabuxxing

A marriage is more likely to be successful if the male partner is tall. Women just feel happier about it. Several studies in Asia completely proved this hypothesis.[9][10]

If even in not quite hypergamous nations manlets are screwed, then imagine the horror they have to face in western nations.

Research studies

A Dutch case

Normies commonly suggest that Europeans, especially the Dutch, became tall due to external factors such as a great supply of nutrients. As we delve deep into evolutionary psychology, we find out that the main reason as to why Dutch men are tall these days is because short Dutch men barely even reproduced. A study which analyzed the number of kids received by men of different heights in the Netherlands concluded that:

“Our results suggest that... taller men have higher fertility compared with shorter men. It therefore seems plausible to suggest that natural selection may have acted on the Dutch population, and helped drive the Dutch toward taller heights”.[11]

Brooke Jenkins

Brooke N. Jenkins did a study published in 2015. A 14-page PDF for it will automatically download if you click https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/1474704915604563

It showed as height increases, average partner count consistently also increases.

Brooke divided men into five height categories (pg 5) and listed their average partner counts (pg 1)

  1. very short (5'2"–5'4"; 157–164 cm; 1%) avg 9.4
  2. short (5'5"–5'7"; 165–171 cm; 9%) avg 11.0
  3. average (5'8"–5'10"; 172–178 cm; 33%) avg 11.7
  4. tall (5'11"–6'1"; 179–186 cm; 40%) avg 12.0
  5. very tall (6'2"–6'4"; 187–194 cm; 15%) avg 12.1
  6. extremely tall (6'5"+; greater than 194 cm; 2%) avg 12.3

Although the pattern is consistent, the difference is underwhelming to those who consider height to have a larger impact.

User:Bibipi for example was distressed about some sort of "d = .22 less than tall people" for the extremely short, although it's unclear how he got that number. He talks about <4'11" yet that was not the parameters of the "very short" in Brooke's study. Men below 5'2" were not even surveyed in it, and 12.0 minus 9.4 is a difference of average partner count of 2.6 not 0.22.

One interesting thing to notice about the sampling Jenkins did is she highly over-sampled "tall" men (at 40% this is higher than the 33% "average" men) and under-sampled "short" men (only 9%)

Similarly there was a negligible amount of "very short" men, constituting only 1% of the sampling size, as compared to 15% of the sampling being "very tall".

Brooke's bias is also shown in the naming system chosen: there is an "extremely tall" category yet no "extremely short" category for parity.

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A reason for this could be that short men tend to resist taking studies like this, because they are ashamed to participate in them and relate their low partner counts.

This creates a selection bias where the minority of short men who DO respond to the study are the outliers who get an unusually higher amount of sex due to other factors in their favor, such as face/wealth/etc.

Gert Stulp

Even though women have strong preferences for height, these preferences only translate modestly into actual pairings.[12] Such statistics may be too old to reflect very recent dating realities though.

The salience of the heightpill probably comes from the redpill that men do engage in physical intimidation of one another in which short guys will lose more often.

Videos on height and dating

A TV reportage shows the heightpill by interviewing scientists, as well as conducting an experiment, proving that below 5'3 (160 cm), it never began:

Abbreviations

If you have this property in your body with these four letters, you are perceived as significantly more romantic by your bare presence, levitate above the crowds, and you do not have to settle for misery:

t. a. l. l.
Top all limerence leverage
The alpha life levitation
Thrive around lovely ladies

Your body needs these four letters!

Women tend to pronounce “tall” in a soft and romantic way.

Other possibilities

  • H.e.i.g.h.t.:
    • High society
    • elegance
    • imperator
    • genetic quality
    • hoarder of women
    • testosterone

References

See also

Blackpill

Theory

Biological essentialismEugenicsEnvironmentalismTraditionalist conservatismFatalismBlackpillScientific BlackpillScientific Blackpill (Supplemental)Behavioral sinkHypergamyMatthew effectBeautyNeotenyFisherian runawayGood genes hypothesisDominance hierarchyIntrasexual competitionJ. D. UnwinSexual sublimationFemale subordinationSexual modestySexual MarxismOnline datingPhysiognomyPersonalityEvolutionary psychologySub8 theory

Marriage

SlutMonogamyMarriageArranged marriagePolygynyPolyandry

Anti-Lookism

LookismPuahate.com

Pills

BlackpillRacepillHeightpillDickpillBaldpillShitpillDogpillBirdpillTeen love pill

It's over

Cope or ropeCopeRopingLay down and rotInbreeding depressionOutbreeding depressionMutationFeminizationSocial epistasis amplification modelAtavismReproductive successDemographics of inceldomTeleiophilic delaySampo generationCauses of celibacyAdverse effects of inceldomBrain rotEvolutionary mismatchBehavioral sinkRegression toward the meanPeaked in high schoolFOMOSexual envyNo x for your yJaw is law