User talk:Mikey

2019

Lesson in Mediawiki syntax

Please include "See Also" links in your article to other articles, as well as "See Also" links from other articles to your article. Without such things, your page becomes an "orphaned page", meaning it is hard for people to access it. If you are confused about how "see also" works on pages, check the source of a page with "see also".

Also every new topic on a talk page should have a header (equal sign header) that describes your new topic like how this one has "hello" as the header. Thanks! William (talk) 14:37, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Also replies to comments on talk pages use colons, the amount of colons depending on what comment you are replying to William (talk) 14:40, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

a reply to a reply uses two colons for example (like this comment, each comment has it's own sig William (talk) 14:40, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

A reply to the initial topic uses one colon and so on, it works like a threaded forum William (talk) 14:40, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Please read up more on mediawiki syntax

Here's a start https://incels.wiki/w/Talk:Beautiful_speech_pattern

If you have questions, or want a real-time lesson, just ask William (talk) 15:04, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

kk editing now Mikey (talk) 15:06, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Updated Policy

Receiving this ping does not necessarily mean you have done something wrong. There seems to be conflict arising from unclear guidelines about humor articles. While it is not possible to fully formalize how humor articles should work, here is a basic summary to be taken in good-faith. Rule about articles that are not about accuracy. William (talk) 13:45, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

different opinions on mewing page

by User:Lorsss

Different opinions on mewing

Before my edits this page was definetely supported mewing as effective way to improve one's face, while ignoring the opinion of the majority of PSL community who don't believe mewing theories. This is why I splitted in two, explaining the opinion of both mewing supporters and both mewing deniers.

I quote this guideline of incels.wiki

Incel Wiki is inclusionist, not delitionist. We try to preserve other people's writing. If you absolutely hate a page or have a completely different view, you can split controversial pages into two pages, or qualify disagreement in the article itself by saying "x (me) views y as this", however "z views y as this" (more recommended for large articles).

You changed the section I wrote about the opinion mewing deniers so that their opinion is considered wrong, thus you made the page biased again.

• Theres nothing biased about the page, used an reference. Can use more if wanted. Mikey (talk) 15:31, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Jaw training

you also wrote in that page that jaw training is useful to looksmax, However jaw and masseter training is not a looksmaxing method, but a thing which makes your face worse. The proof of my arguents are Looksmax.me users who undergo surgical masseter reduction and end up being more attractive. In fact masseter is a round muscle which makes your face apperar round, whereas good natural jaw bones are sharp and make your face appear angular

• Provided a proven reference on the page, could provide many more if needed. post a Link to their posts on the mewing page.

Mikey (talk) 15:31, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Off topic in mewing page

in that page you wrote phrases about facial exercise and jaw training, however the topic of this page is mewing, and theese exercises are off-Topic

• Not off topic, there all facial exercises. Mikey (talk) 15:31, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Subsections

Do you know how they work?, specifically, ===subsection=== inside of ==section==William (talk)

Like how to use them? doesn't this go like

Hi my name is Slim Shady

Slim Shady is the alter ego of Eminem.

Characteristics

• blonde hair
• blue eyes

Mikey (talk) 22:04, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

Have a happy holidaysWilliam (talk) 22:00, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

2020

Recent It's over Edits - Warning #1

Regarding your section telling men uglier than you to LDAR.

See Editing_rules,_account_creation,_and_other_info#Editing_Rules. We do not allow prescriptive type writing, especially that which is malicious towards incels. Regardless of whether it was intended as malicious, please try to avoid prescriptive writing as it states in the rules.William (talk) 22:08, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

"Regardless of whether it was intend or not." Does Bib, get a warning for calling incels mutants? mutation "That being said, being a mutant is not a judgement or insult. It is simply the genetic condition of having a high mutational load, much like being physically ill is not an insult." Mikey (talk) 22:27, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

His use of "may" and his disclaimers there are playing footsie with the rules, but it at least shows he knows the rules. I haven't seen that but that sort of violates the rule about unsourced genetic fitness claims. However, if he sources it accurately, it can stay. Thank you for pointing that out, and please don't tell incels to LDAR and that "its over".William (talk) 22:32, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

I wrote the stuff about the purported increase in autism being possibly due to increased de novo mutations in the mutation article mikey linked. I provided sources and didn't make any judgement on whether this is reflective of "good genes" or not. Altmark22 (talk) 22:39, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Ok, this is ultimately a red herring Mikey, please don't point at others when I give you a warningWilliam (talk) 22:41, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Bib wrote the mutant rising/incels are mutant titles, and edited them to be less offensive like a couple days ago. I peeped 2 weeks ago like damn this is cold hearted but like its just cringe autism, Bib legit did not mean harm. The rules are intended or not so eh. i brought it up to make sure I was not being targeted and singled out, which feels like I am. Since I've been getting attacked alot lately. Mikey (talk) 22:46, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

You are victimizing yourself and blaming others that have nothing to do with this section, stop doing that. If multiple people don't like your writing on meme pages, then the relevant content won't be used. If it violates a rule then it definitely won't be used.William (talk) 22:57, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

That's fine, and some of the mutant stuff rubbed me the wrong way also (could easily be perceived as eugenicist, or hostile towards incels). Just wanted to clarify that I wrote a large portion of that article. Altmark22 (talk) 22:54, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

"Regarding your section telling men uglier than you to LDAR." Will that's fucking personal "your" as in Mikey telling men uglier than Mikey to LDAR. I'm fuckin pissed off cuz I wrote the LDAR checklist to help people, and it could have been written by a truecel, u just happen to know its me, so tell me how its not personal? This wiki is the first thing an outsider sees about incels, specifically the decile page. Had no idea about incel culture, losing status by ascension, chadsplaining, the hate of positivity and helpfulness, even though all this wiki is, is helpful even though that is not the intent? Literally thought this place was about ascension, and or getting better with women till like a week ago, just because of how useful the info is and thats the thing, you just wrote muscle theory, I guarantee you by next month at least a few hundreds ch3ds ascended or not (the people incels hate) are gonna use that pages info to get laid. Think about how much PUA's were charging for bullshit. Theres probably over $1,000,000 of actually useful, true information here, let go for free, and its not helping incels its helping u know whos. If an incel reads yur muscle theory and gets laid, he's not incel. Articles that would help incels are like best copes of 2020, get this video game. My 6ft 8 Giga-tyrone friend that has a girlfriend, is unnecessarily black pilled, about the importance of jawline and bone structure definition from watching Faceandlms, just because of how big and mainstream this shit has gotten. People see the knowledge first and the culture second. Outsiders think this about helping all men. If your mad about certain types of people being here. Theres only gunna be more if you keep putting out useful shit freely. Mikey (talk) 01:25, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

I didn't read that, but you're a chad with a long history of IRL sexual experience and you need to learn how to take a warning as you did break a rule by being prescriptive. Do you know what the word prescriptive means? You have failed to show acknkowledgement of what that word means, and prefer emotionality and hence this page will be locked if you continueWilliam (talk) 01:50, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

relating to the imposition or enforcement of a rule or method. Mikey (talk) 01:54, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Right, please read this policy page. https://incels.wiki/w/Incel_Wiki:Incel_Wiki_is_descriptive,_not_prescriptive#Prescriptive_sentence_examples It very explicitly says to not do what you did, verbatim, in that section. And you're not getting banned over it because you only did it once (unless you also wrote that fashion article, but that could be forgiven too), hence warning, not ban.William (talk) 01:57, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Wrote the == safe outfits for the unfashionable == section with the all white outfits and video. The rest someone else wrote the other stuff. Mikey (talk) 02:02, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Will you wrote the fashion article look at the history Mikey (talk) 02:05, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Yes, that content which I think you're referring to was sourced (ie I did not write it) from a shitty PUA wiki BEFORE THE POLICY ADDITIONS I linked you, see the dates for each. So far, I've given you a warning and you've tried to blame literally everyone except you (Bibipi, me, Altmark). All you had to do was say 'ok I see the rule, I will not violate it. That's it that's all.William (talk) 02:11, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Sorry if I offended any one, it was my fault. Mikey (talk) 02:14, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Didn't mean to delete your changes to Creepiness

I had edited an older version. I hope no feelings were hurt Bibipi (talk) 19:28, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

lol its fine. You know your writing style changed? It slowly started changing after the beauty article was written. And is now drastically different. Like before was more social scientist type. Now its more like physics, hard science type. More use of words like critically, maximally, etc. Im still getting used to the new tone. Just think its interesting is all Mikey (talk) 20:18, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Bad edits

You have replaced perfectly fine pics on beauty with a static pic hosted on your YouTube channel, which is not an obvious improvement. https://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Beauty&oldid=46786

Secondly, you've reverted changes of mine at least some of which seem to be worth keeping, especially the evidence that game does not seem to matter (much?) at zero acquaintance level as IQ and various personality measures like extraversion etc. did not predict romantic interest; secondly you removed the contextualization of game as courtship behavior, and thirdly you removed my improvement of the odd repetitive use of the word 'attractive': https://incels.wiki/index.php?title=Game&diff=46812&oldid=46811 Bibipi (talk) 10:22, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Msg Master Mikey (talk) 10:53, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Nevermind yes

Yes it was old PUA wiki writing. Not yours, I apologize William (talk) 00:36, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

With that said, that page has been bad in all revisions, including the original copypaste.William (talk) 00:38, 19 February 2020 (UTC)