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Image[edit source]

The image is literally the only reason people come to this page. 90% of stuff on this page is made up anyway, so it might as well be humurous. It's staying in the lede. If people can't deal with incel humor, it's not our fault. William (talk) 05:52, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Bateman's Principle (more variation for men's looks)[edit source]

Bateman's principle states there's more variation among men, than women. So There's inevitably going to be more/uneven looks levels on the boy side compared to the girl side. Such as almost every girl being a becky, and there no such thing as Stacypreet.

A quick google search for Stacypreet confirms the prior statement.

Mikey (talk) 12:47, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

More variation of males at the top[edit source]

Bateman's principle is also why there are more variations of Chads at the top of the decile, than variations of normies and incels. And why there's more variation of becky's in the middle. Becky's range from 3-7. Mikey (talk) 13:27, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

AFAIK there is no good evidence of greater variation of looks in men. Bibipi (talk) 14:44, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Female Normie?[edit source]

I've never seen this being used for females. The normie page talks about guys. "Normie" is often synonymously used with NPC. Almost all women are regarded as NPCs, so "she is a normie" is a meaningless distinction because AWALT. Bibipi (talk) 14:44, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Hmm, I guess. But I thought Chadpreet meant an Indian guy. Thebreeze (talk) 17:33, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
I thought so too: Bibipi (talk) 17:57, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
So why are we back with female normie? Bibipi (talk) 01:39, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
I agree with you that this is the sense which is most prominent in lookist forums. But outside of the lookist forums, there seems to be a much broader scope of the term normie. This broader scope tends to give a triple definition of normie; (a) anyone whom operates outside of the manosphere, and (b) anyone whom is bluepilled, or otherwise doesn't sympathize with low-SMV individuals (c) someone who isn't on the inceldom-spectrum. For example in this vlog (here) someone uses NPC, normie and bluepilled as synonyms.
I see your point that the distinction is meaningless, but i feel that we should remember that some people are entirely clueless on manosphere terminology, and treating the audience of this article as clueless is sometimes the right approach. Some of our readers have never even visited a manosphere space once in their life. Thebreeze (talk) 02:27, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
On the other hand people can see that Becky is the female equivalent of Normie, so they should be able to understand what it means. Female normie feels a bit politically correct ("women can be normal too!!"). Bibipi (talk) 02:51, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
I will update the NPC and nomrie pages to give a more rounded perspective on modern usages. Thebreeze (talk) 03:15, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

There are mainly two agent nouns for a person whom adopts bluepilled views: "bluepiller" and "normie". When this article describes normies as solely male, it seems to obscure or contradict the reality that the main purveyors of bluepilled views are actually women. But I don't feel that strongly about the edit, so ... no biggy. Thebreeze (talk) 19:02, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Scale pic issue[edit source]

Currently it is too small to read, so people have to click/tap on it. MediwWiki does unfortunately not support percentage widths. Various options:

  1. Move pic under the lede and full-sized.
  2. Place table and pic side-by-side and break them with a flex box on small screens.
  3. Replace the entire table with a (new) picture. Add links with Extension:ImageMap.

Bibipi (talk) 06:47, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

Alternate scales[edit source]

I was searching around for any other picture examples of ratings 1 to 10 and came across

I'm guessing it was put together by a woman, because the most ugly men don't even appear to exist at all, whereas average guys (probably 4s and 5s) appear at the bottom in the 1s and 2s column.

Is there a toon version? Wiz (talk) 07:36, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Dunno, I couldn't find any. But yea that one has too many private social media photos to be used here.12:11, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

That scale is hilarious lmfao must be made by a woman she used the same guy twice. 6/10 with full beard, 9/10 with no light beard. Mikey (talk) 14:04, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Motive[edit source]

The main reason I was motivated to reinsert "normie" into the scale is because the various names only serve to confuse in a time wherein inceldm is a hot topic (and contoversial at that). Ther incelosphere should normalize the notion of the "normie" in order to emphasize the contrast that exists between normal society and those on the icneldom spectrum. Using a relevant etymology such as normie will facilitate such a discussion. Thebreeze2 (talk) 21:06, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Furthermore, the usage of proper nouns as human descriptions does nothing to counter the perception of the incelosphere as an ideology/subculture. Thebreeze2 (talk) 02:24, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Brent and Keith[edit source]

based on it feels like we should assign the name Brent to this table somewhere.

He seems more than a 6/10 (Brad) so what if we subbed that for 7 (high-tier normy) or 8 (chadlite) ?

I've never really liked needing to say "lite" or "giga" tbh so maybe we could replace Gigachad with Meeks or some shit. Wiz (talk) 19:57, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

It's probably best to stick to the conventional terms in the incel/PSL/imageboard communities to describe those particular male attractiveness tiers. If you really want to try to force these memes you could add them in parentheses I guess. Altmark22 (talk)

rank ten female is off[edit source]

Do we have a list of names for the faces used in the chart on the upper right of article?

I'm actually more into the 7/10 than the 10/10

I think maybe than arbitrarily embracing a chart we should have some kind of voting system where we do annual charts to see how it fluctuates. Wiz (talk) 19:59, 1 January 2021 (UTC)