Talk:Gait

Alot of studys!!!!

The article is a stub right now cuz theres like a huge amount of studys to read thru! The general gist is more muscular=better percieved dancer/walker

study:https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S174360951532155X

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2017.01427/full

https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/7090488

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/ajhb.22703

https://jov.arvojournals.org/article.aspx?articleid=2136042

https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2971408

https://jov.arvojournals.org/article.aspx?articleid=2133795

Mikey (talk) 01:25, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

No one gonna read those or use them so I assume you will use them at some pointWilliam (talk) 01:28, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Don't think Bib or Alt would? Mikey (talk) 01:30, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Dancing

Meta studies on dancing. https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2015.00220/full https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-014-0004-2 Mikey (talk) 17:38, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Complete nonsense

What do smell and grip strength have to do with gait? Bibipi (talk) 12:48, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Read the fucking references, you stupid idiot thats what they are there for. Mikey (talk) 14:26, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

This still has nothing to do with gait, lol. That's like making a subsection on "money" on the beauty article because women are attracted to money. Completely irrelevant. Gait is not the same as nonverbal behavior. The term "nonverbal movement" makes no sense. The linked study has a ridiculous sample size and 2D:4D ratio suffered replication crisis: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1359178917300174 Bibipi (talk) 16:43, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

The study you've linked about dancing was also seriously flawed: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/234139342_The_Anatomy_of_a_Fraud_Symmetry_and_Dance Though the correlation of HGS and dacing probabily exist, but it's probably just evidence of overall body strength. Perception of dance quality may be a halo effect from body strength which determine most of male bodily attractiveness. Bibipi (talk) 16:43, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Changes in preferences for masculinity across the ovulation cycle have also had a replication crisis:

several recent studies have found no change in mate preferences among women at the peri-ovulatory phase for muscularity48,49, facial masculinity23,49,50, beards23,51, vocal masculinity52,53 and facial symmetry49. Thus, the extent to which ovulatory cycle shifts are associated with women’s mate preferences may have been overestimated in past research due to imprecise methodologies and small sample sizes54.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-39350-8 Bibipi (talk) 16:43, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

I told you several times before not to write about things that you have no clue about. You have added so many falsities and inaccuracies to this wiki that I'm getting really tired of cleaning them up. Bibipi (talk) 16:43, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

I told you several times to stop messaging me, but here you are. Theres nothing wrong with the studies. If new information comes out then write it down, and reference how new information has changed things. Dont fucking message me about it like Im yur keeper. Mikey (talk) 17:52, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

All you do is talk shit, complain, lie, slander, fake apologize and annoy people. Congrats yur the most dominant, manipulative person here, do you want me to give u a fucking cookie? Stop fucking messaging me. Mikey (talk) 18:11, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Same about the fighting section. What does this have to do with gait, "the pattern of movement of the limbs of animals during locomotion over a solid substrate"? At this rate we could also include cycling because it somehow involves moving the limbs, lol. Utter nonsense. Bibipi (talk) 12:19, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

I have to agree with bib on this, unfortunately, mikey/aramar. The motion capture stuff has nothing linking it to attractiveness, the description of the 'perfect walk' is overly long and tedious, and a lot of the sections of the article are irrelevant to the core theme of the article. I would strongly suggest the whole article be compacted. There are also some crucial studies that are missing (like the swaggering shoulders one), I will add them if I can track them down. Altmark22 (talk) 07:03, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Exact source of key aspects of gait attractiveness?

Bibipi (talk) 11:24, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Vids have very poor quality

Mikey, get a proper screen recording software and redo them. Then send us the mp4s or webm's. That is, only if the video sequences actually show what you claim they do. As far as I can tell you are simply showing the BML Walker with a high degree of "happiness". Where exactly do they claim this is a sexually attractive gait? Bibipi (talk) 12:23, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Citations need double-checking

Which I assume Bibipi might have already done, but given how sloppy the citations were in game, someone should review this page if not done already. William (talk) 17:13, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Rewrite

Most of the stuff in this article has nothing to do with gait (directly), and thus should be removed. Perhaps moved to other articles on physical movements/behavior that is apparently linked to sexual attraction (honest signalling) or courtship, such as dancing.Altmark22 (talk)