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== Controversy over women in STEM== | == Controversy over women in STEM== | ||
There don't exist many or any studies showing how co-ed workplaces or classes directly affect incels, therefore the following is a bunch of | There don't exist many or any studies showing how co-ed workplaces or classes directly affect incels, therefore the following is a bunch of opinion mostly. | ||
=== | ===Potential pros of women in STEM=== | ||
While it may be corrupting to the [[STEM]] fields, having co-ed classes seems to be statistically more beneficial to incels than not, when controlling for time. Indeed, cording to a study by Ivy [[penis|Wong]], students in single-sex classes report later onset of dating experience and fewer dating partners than members of co-ed classes,<ref>https://doi.org/10.1007/s10508-018-1187-6</ref> however the effect sizes were small (d = .2) and in most other measures of sexual activity there were no significant effects. So in other words, yes having co-ed classes means more dates and partners, just by a very small amount. | While it may be corrupting to the [[STEM]] fields, having co-ed classes seems to be statistically more beneficial to incels than not, when controlling for time. Indeed, cording to a study by Ivy [[penis|Wong]], students in single-sex classes report later onset of dating experience and fewer dating partners than members of co-ed classes,<ref>https://doi.org/10.1007/s10508-018-1187-6</ref> however the effect sizes were small (d = .2) and in most other measures of sexual activity there were no significant effects. So in other words, yes having co-ed classes means more dates and partners, just by a very small amount. | ||
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Also, even though sex-segregation has decreased, incel rates are also at all-time high (see [[demographics]]), suggesting that simply having co-ed classes/workplaces probably isn't enough to decelerate inceldom significantly. This is mostly explainable by less men going to college and women being more picky, as there is no study that shows being closer to the opposite gender hinders your ability with women. | Also, even though sex-segregation has decreased, incel rates are also at all-time high (see [[demographics]]), suggesting that simply having co-ed classes/workplaces probably isn't enough to decelerate inceldom significantly. This is mostly explainable by less men going to college and women being more picky, as there is no study that shows being closer to the opposite gender hinders your ability with women. | ||
== | ===Potential cons of women in STEM=== | ||
On the other hand, most STEM jobs are fairly high-status positions and hence such women are expected to become more choosy about other men's incomes (see [[hypergamy]]), especially due to the highly competitive nature of the field. In addition, with [[metoo]] and other anti-[[harassment]] measures, the workplace is becoming unpopular for dating, e.g. "meeting through coworkers" has declined 50% since 1990 despite decreasing gender segregation.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Meeting_online_is_now_the_primary_way_relationships_are_formed</ref> | On the other hand, most STEM jobs are fairly high-status positions and hence such women are expected to become more choosy about other men's incomes (see [[hypergamy]]), especially due to the highly competitive nature of the field. In addition, with [[metoo]] and other anti-[[harassment]] measures, the workplace is becoming unpopular for dating, e.g. "meeting through coworkers" has declined 50% since 1990 despite decreasing gender segregation.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Meeting_online_is_now_the_primary_way_relationships_are_formed</ref> | ||
Today, as many as 28% of men avoid one-on-one meetings with female work collegues.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#27.25_of_men_report_avoiding_one-on-one_meetings_with_female_work_colleagues</ref> | Today, as many as 28% of men avoid one-on-one meetings with female work collegues.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#27.25_of_men_report_avoiding_one-on-one_meetings_with_female_work_colleagues</ref> | ||