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Provided a better understanding of the incel in its place with marxism
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==Variations==
==Variations==
There have been various other characterizations of the lower social orders, such as the Roman word "Proletarius", Burke's "mob", and Hegel's "rabble" (Pobel), and [[Andy Nowicki]]'s "low-status male". What is somewhat unique about the term, "lumpenproletariat", is it attempts to separate the very lowest classes, politically, from the rest of the lower class.
There have been various other characterizations of the lower social orders, such as the Roman word "Proletarius", Burke's "mob", and Hegel's "rabble" (Pobel), and [[Andy Nowicki]]'s "low-status male". What is somewhat unique about the term, "lumpenproletariat", is it attempts to separate the very lowest classes, politically, from the rest of the lower class.
==Why many socialists hate incels according to Marxist theory==
==Marxist Perception of Incels as a Reactionary Group==
The accusation from traditional Marxists is that extremely poor people are dependent on things like cash handouts from the bourgeoisie for sustenance, and therefore would be traitors to those who work for a living if given the chance. Karl Marx famously referred to the support the French dictator/emperor Napoleon III received from the underclasses of French society at the time as an example of this. But what Marx and company fail to take into account is that their open hostility toward the lumpenproletarian causes a lot of this. For example, today's socialist left typically have no interest in [[incel]] issues and use them as a butt of a joke. That isn't going to propel incels to do anything but hate socialists (for good reason).
Marxists, when orthodox in their ideology but stunted in their ability to deduce and reliably ascertain the causes and effects of social malaise; have a tendency to retroactively group incels as a whole as a broadly reactionary right-wing stratum. This is done because of not only hypergamy (which itself is a product of capitalist societies cultural reinforcement as a matter of its existence.) But as a maladaptive social degenerative force. Society, as a monolithic entity responds to the logical occurrence of inceldom in a hypergamist capitalist society by treating it as a sort of cultural cancer. Due to this maladaptation by society and culture at large, the common incel tends to become a part of the faceless, unconscious lumpenproletarian mass
 
===Alleged manifestation of lumpenproletariat alliance with right-wing movements===
===Alleged manifestation of lumpenproletariat alliance with right-wing movements===
Anti-fascist socialists also claim the lumpenproletariat was instrumental to the rise of Hitler, with claims the Nazi party's paramilitary group [[Sturmabteilung]] (SA) allegedly contained many, "lumpens".<ref>https://intransigence.org/2019/03/26/on-the-lumpenproletariat/</ref> The Sturmabteilung engaged in street battles with the Communist Party of Germany's own paramilitary forces, which some saw as analogous to the gamer right-wing protesters at the 2017 "Unite the Right" rally engaging in street fights with left-wingers and anti-racists.
Anti-fascist socialists also claim the lumpenproletariat was instrumental to the rise of Hitler, with claims the Nazi party's paramilitary group [[Sturmabteilung]] (SA) allegedly contained many, "lumpens".<ref>https://intransigence.org/2019/03/26/on-the-lumpenproletariat/</ref> The Sturmabteilung engaged in street battles with the Communist Party of Germany's own paramilitary forces, which some saw as analogous to the gamer right-wing protesters at the 2017 "Unite the Right" rally engaging in street fights with left-wingers and anti-racists.

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