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Alex has run into a lot of legal trouble for publicly expressing his views on women; he has previously been put on trial in Russia after a corrupt local arm of the Russian Centre for Combating Extremism decided that Alex uttering the phrases "they [women] don't give me [sexual relationships]. Women want the rich and successful, but I'm not like that", and similar viewpoints constitute a violation of Russia's controversial laws prohibiting extremist speech.
Alex has run into a lot of legal trouble for publicly expressing his views on women; he has previously been put on trial in Russia after a corrupt local arm of the Russian Centre for Combating Extremism decided that Alex uttering the phrases "they [women] don't give me [sexual relationships]. Women want the rich and successful, but I'm not like that", and similar viewpoints constitute a violation of Russia's controversial laws prohibiting extremist speech.
This collaboration between two unlikely bedfellows (Russia's 'right wing' government and feminists) that Alex would probably see as proof of his concept of 'feminofascism'.<ref>http://zavtra.ru/blogs/seks-ekstremizm</ref><ref>https://ehrac.org.uk/news/russias-overuse-and-misuse-of-anti-extremism-laws/</ref>
This collaboration between two unlikely bedfellows (Russia's 'right wing' government and feminists), would probably seen by Alex as proof of his concept of 'feminofascism'.<ref>http://zavtra.ru/blogs/seks-ekstremizm</ref><ref>https://ehrac.org.uk/news/russias-overuse-and-misuse-of-anti-extremism-laws/</ref>


This trial occurred after several complaints by feminist groups and a history of the CCP surveilling, abusing, and physically torturing Alex, likely owing to his criticism of the Russian government. He faced 15 days in detainment (not jail) for a first time offence.<ref>https://opennov.ru/news/society/2019-11-28/23347</ref><ref>http://archive.is/UvLyF</ref><ref>http://archive.is/wip/iDsCf</ref>
This trial occurred after several complaints by feminist groups and a history of the CCP surveilling, abusing, and physically torturing Alex, likely owing to his criticism of the Russian government. He faced 15 days in detainment (not jail) for a first time offence.<ref>https://opennov.ru/news/society/2019-11-28/23347</ref><ref>http://archive.is/UvLyF</ref><ref>http://archive.is/wip/iDsCf</ref>
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He wrote an autobiographical book about his experience with the lawlessness of Russian prosecution called "In Circle Two".
He wrote an autobiographical book about his experience with the lawlessness of Russian prosecution called "In Circle Two".


===Beliefs===
==Beliefs==
In terms of personal beliefs, he has previously claimed to be a 'Christian Communist'. He was previously in communion with the Russian Orthodox Church but broke with it due to their alleged suppression of his education supposedly spurred by his left-wing policital beliefs.  He denies allegations of anti-Semitism despite often employing some anti-Semitic sounding language and arguments, claiming he is 'almost a Jew' himself.
In terms of personal beliefs, he has previously claimed to be a 'Christian Communist'. He was previously in communion with the Russian Orthodox Church but broke with it due to their alleged suppression of his education supposedly spurred by his left-wing policital beliefs.  He denies allegations of anti-Semitism despite often employing some anti-Semitic sounding language and arguments, claiming he is 'almost a Jew' himself.
====Gender dynamics and feminism====
====Gender dynamics and feminism====
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Undersky is vague on how the 'vaginocapitalists' can be convinced to halt their 'exploitation' of the bulk of males and begin distributing sex more equitably and liberally.  He admits it is an open question as to how this can occur on a level that will positively impact most men's sex lives without 'enslaving and socializing women' or otherwise taking strong measures to reduce their agency over men on a macro level.
Undersky is vague on how the 'vaginocapitalists' can be convinced to halt their 'exploitation' of the bulk of males and begin distributing sex more equitably and liberally.  He admits it is an open question as to how this can occur on a level that will positively impact most men's sex lives without 'enslaving and socializing women' or otherwise taking strong measures to reduce their agency over men on a macro level.
The core aspect of Undersky's analysis of the sexual marketplace as being comprised of an exchange system with women as sellers and men as buyers was anticipated by an earlier Marxist book entitled [[Women As Sex Vendors (book)|Women As Sex Vendors]].  
The core aspect of Undersky's analysis of the sexual marketplace as being comprised of an exchange system with women as sellers and men as buyers was anticipated by an earlier Marxist book entitled [[Women As Sex Vendors (book)|Women As Sex Vendors]].  
However, Undersky further advances this line of argumentation by portraying women as asset-holding capitalists rather than essentially passive victims of the capitalist system of exchange and production, like the aforementioned book's female author— which is in line with the typical orthodox Marxist treatment of social phenomena that involves the exchange of sex for resources.
However, Undersky further advances this line of argumentation by portraying women as asset-holding capitalists rather than essentially passive victims of the capitalist system of exchange and production, like the aforementioned book's female author— which is in line with the typical orthodox Marxist treatment of social phenomena that involves the exchange of sex for resources.
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Before becoming interested in incel politics, he has involved in IRL activism involving opposition to animal experiments, protesting against the cruel treatment of stray animals, supporting the Marxist-Leninist government of Cuba, local prosecutorial abuse reform, housing protection, and environmental reform for years.<ref>http://undersky2008.narod.ru/</ref><ref>http://pravda.webstolica.ru/v-kruge-vtorom-aleksej-podnebesnyj/</ref>  He continues his environmental activism, advocating for increased public parks among other things.
Before becoming interested in incel politics, he has involved in IRL activism involving opposition to animal experiments, protesting against the cruel treatment of stray animals, supporting the Marxist-Leninist government of Cuba, local prosecutorial abuse reform, housing protection, and environmental reform for years.<ref>http://undersky2008.narod.ru/</ref><ref>http://pravda.webstolica.ru/v-kruge-vtorom-aleksej-podnebesnyj/</ref>  He continues his environmental activism, advocating for increased public parks among other things.


He claims the ultimate objective of the Left must be to "[...] provide sex for all men and to abolish work," a viewpoint that is somewhat similar to the 19th century [[Charles Fourier|Charles Fourier's]] beliefs, though even Fourier could not envision the abolition of work. He also called on the UN to declare "free and affordable sex" a universal human right.
He claims the ultimate objective of the Left must be to "[...] provide sex for all men and to abolish work," (in Alex's view the main driver of the economy beyond a subsistence level is men's desire for sex) a viewpoint that is somewhat similar to the 19th century French utopian socialist [[Charles Fourier|Charles Fourier's]] beliefs, though even Fourier could not envision the abolition of work. He also called on the UN to declare "free and affordable sex" a universal human right.


===Psychiatry===
===Psychiatry===

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