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===Alt-right===
===Alt-right===


The person who first formalized the blackpill, [[Paragon]], believed in radical [[biological essentialism]], a prominent [[alt-right]] view.  Paragon is white, but not knowingly a white nationalist or member of the alt-right as a collective and is thought to be currently living in the Phillipines.  The first two blackpill boards anywhere were either founded or discussion-seeded by a self-described "neo-reactionary", i.e. [[Caamib]].  Reddit made it clear they would not tolerate that style of incel discussion and so Braincels was populated next.  Braincels was a previously dormant sub founded by a non-racist anarcho-communist named [[AnathematicAnarchist]].  The forum espoused a unique version of the blackpill and was not particularly traditionalist or alt-right (outside of slut-shaming).  Braincels actively sought to minimize racism in their Reddit community and before [[AnathematicAnarchist]] committed suicide, were largely hostile to the [[alt-right]].<ref>http://redditsearch.io/?term=racism%20&dataviz=false&aggs=false&subreddits=braincels&searchtype=posts&search=true&start=0&end=1583051366&size=100</ref><ref>http://redditsearch.io/?term=alt-right&dataviz=false&aggs=false&subreddits=braincels&searchtype=posts&search=true&start=0&end=1583051401&size=100</ref>  The lack of racism on Braincels was largely due to continuous bans of alt-right users, presumably mainly to prevent the entire subreddit from being banned but also because the mods were ethnics (one was a indian stalinist).
The person who first formalized the blackpill, [[Paragon]], believed in radical [[biological essentialism]], a prominent [[alt-right]] view.  Paragon is white, but not knowingly a white nationalist or member of the alt-right as a collective and is thought to be currently living in the Philippines.  The first two blackpill boards anywhere were either founded or discussion-seeded by a self-described "neo-reactionary", i.e. [[Caamib]].  Reddit made it clear they would not tolerate that style of incel discussion and so Braincels was populated next.  Braincels was a previously dormant sub founded by a non-racist anarcho-communist named [[AnathematicAnarchist]].  The forum espoused a unique version of the blackpill and was not particularly traditionalist or alt-right (outside of slut-shaming).  Braincels actively sought to minimize racism in their Reddit community and before [[AnathematicAnarchist]] committed suicide, were largely hostile to the [[alt-right]].<ref>http://redditsearch.io/?term=racism%20&dataviz=false&aggs=false&subreddits=braincels&searchtype=posts&search=true&start=0&end=1583051366&size=100</ref><ref>http://redditsearch.io/?term=alt-right&dataviz=false&aggs=false&subreddits=braincels&searchtype=posts&search=true&start=0&end=1583051401&size=100</ref>  The lack of racism on Braincels was largely due to continuous bans of alt-right users, presumably mainly to prevent the entire subreddit from being banned but also because the mods were ethnics (one was a indian stalinist).


On [[incels.co]], the current largest blackpill community, anywhere between 6% and 27% of users identify as [[alt-right]] (95% CI).<ref>https://incels.co/threads/whats-your-second-preferred-division-of-the-manosphere-after-incel.106366/</ref> and 49% identify as tradcon.<ref>https://incels.co/threads/the-ultimate-political-poll.61898/</ref>  Their continued non-banned presence on the forum<ref>https://incels.co/threads/to-the-wns-would-asians-or-hapas-be-allowed-in-the-ethnostate.108581/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/james-allsup-youtuber-casually-drops-the-race-realism-pill-on-1-5-million-viewers.109543/</ref> leads to constant threads complaining about race-baiting, far-right views, and there exists mild but ultimately toothless animosity between "stormfrontcels" and ethnic users. However, many openly racist users have also been banned.{{citation needed}}
On [[incels.co]], the current largest blackpill community, anywhere between 6% and 27% of users identify as [[alt-right]] (95% CI).<ref>https://incels.co/threads/whats-your-second-preferred-division-of-the-manosphere-after-incel.106366/</ref> and 49% identify as tradcon.<ref>https://incels.co/threads/the-ultimate-political-poll.61898/</ref>  Their continued non-banned presence on the forum<ref>https://incels.co/threads/to-the-wns-would-asians-or-hapas-be-allowed-in-the-ethnostate.108581/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/james-allsup-youtuber-casually-drops-the-race-realism-pill-on-1-5-million-viewers.109543/</ref> leads to constant threads complaining about race-baiting, far-right views, and there exists mild but ultimately toothless animosity between "stormfrontcels" and ethnic users. However, many openly racist users have also been banned.{{citation needed}}
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'''Lowering women's status''': Women's [[hypergamy]] means that for each man there needs to be a woman of lower status. This implies, in order to reduce inceldom,  women's status relative to men needs to be lowered in general. Not necessarily as far that all women are below men, but many in the manosphere do advocate for this.
'''Lowering women's status''': Women's [[hypergamy]] means that for each man there needs to be a woman of lower status. This implies, in order to reduce inceldom,  women's status relative to men needs to be lowered in general. Not necessarily as far that all women are below men, but many in the manosphere do advocate for this.
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'''Ignoring women and sex:''' Others believe a positive effect of taking the blackpill is that it liberates from false hope and from expending time and effort for what is, in essence, a futile goal. Taking the blackpill means acknowledgement unethical, shallow and unhealthy mannerisms in the dating scene or even wider cultural practices, such as [[narcissism]] and [[lookism]] (the [[halo effect]] and beauty-is-good stereotyping). Many blackpilled incels eventually complement or supplant the blackpill with the [[whitepill]]. Acceptance of the blackpill could literally mean adopting monk status and potentially joining a religious community that provides a sense of [[beloningness]] and status, or embracing ones singledom, freedom and independence ([[MGTOW]], monk mode<ref>https://illimitablemen.com/2014/04/13/monk-mode/</ref>).
'''Ignoring women and sex:''' Others believe a positive effect of taking the blackpill is that it liberates from false hope and from expending time and effort for what is, in essence, a futile goal. Taking the blackpill means acknowledgement unethical, shallow and unhealthy mannerisms in the dating scene or even wider cultural practices, such as [[narcissism]] and [[lookism]] (the [[halo effect]] and beauty-is-good stereotyping). Many blackpilled incels eventually complement or supplant the blackpill with the [[whitepill]]. Acceptance of the blackpill could literally mean adopting monk status and potentially joining a religious community that provides a sense of [[beloningness]] and status, or embracing one's singledom, freedom and independence ([[MGTOW]], monk mode<ref>https://illimitablemen.com/2014/04/13/monk-mode/</ref>).
For these blackpillers, the blackpill is mainly seen as a counterweight to the prevalent and bluepilled assumption that having a poor social and [[romance|romantic]] life is mostly [[Neoliberalism|one's own fault]] and/or a matter of cultivating a positive [[personality]]. It provides a basis whereby one can reject day-to-day [[platitude]] and the commonly fraudulent "[[work on yourself|self-improvement]]" advice that is ubiquitous in media, advertising and the [[redpill]].
For these blackpillers, the blackpill is mainly seen as a counterweight to the prevalent and bluepilled assumption that having a poor social and [[romance|romantic]] life is mostly [[Neoliberalism|one's own fault]] and/or a matter of cultivating a positive [[personality]]. It provides a basis whereby one can reject day-to-day [[platitude]] and the commonly fraudulent "[[work on yourself|self-improvement]]" advice that is ubiquitous in media, advertising and the [[redpill]].
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'''Cult & unhealthy pessimism''': Blackpill-spaces are criticised as cultish, quasi-religious and for encouraging unhealthy, pessimistic behaviors among members of the spaces, sometimes inciting violence.<ref>https://ablogaboutincels.com/2019/11/02/the-blackpill-is-something-like-a-cult-or-a-religion/</ref>
'''Cult & unhealthy pessimism''': Blackpill-spaces are criticised as cultish, quasi-religious and for encouraging unhealthy, pessimistic behaviors among members of the spaces, sometimes inciting violence.<ref>https://ablogaboutincels.com/2019/11/02/the-blackpill-is-something-like-a-cult-or-a-religion/</ref>
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'''Bluepill''': The [[bluepill]] is pretty much the complete opposite of the blackpill.  Bluepillers tend to deny even biology determinism, and propose self-help, personality-altering, individualism, [[neoliberalism]], and other self-actualization type philosophies.  They also promote an overall positivity as a solution to inceldom.
'''Bluepill''': The [[bluepill]] is pretty much the complete opposite of the blackpill.  Bluepillers tend to deny even biology determinism and propose self-help, personality-altering, individualism, [[neoliberalism]], and other self-actualization type philosophies.  They also promote an overall positivity as a solution to inceldom.
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'''Danger of a stricter culture''': A general danger of returning to stricter enforcement of norms and hierarchies is that those in power will abuse it. For example, the notion of chivalry (man proves himself to and protects the woman), nationalism, obedience can quickly result in exploitation of low-status males and provoke wars between nations, or also possibly authoritarian outrages such as mass killings. It is a balancing act between maintaining order on the one hand and preventing highly coordinated conflict on the other.
'''Danger of a stricter culture''': A general danger of returning to stricter enforcement of norms and hierarchies is that those in power will abuse it. For example, the notion of chivalry (man proves himself to and protects the woman), nationalism, obedience can quickly result in exploitation of low-status males and provoke wars between nations, or also possibly authoritarian outrages such as mass killings. It is a balancing act between maintaining order on the one hand and preventing highly coordinated conflict on the other.
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