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The '''blackpill''' is an internet philosophy that female sexual desire is very inflexible,<ref>https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/she-felt-unloved/#comment-22914</ref> that women [[biological essentialism|naturally]] [[sexual selection|select]] men based on [[looks]] rather than [[personality]], and that [[good genes hypothesis|women select men with the best genes]]. Thus the belief system is more than just a belief in women being mostly [[lookism|lookist]] in dating. For blackpillers, ugly ('genetically inferior') men have no chance of getting laid without more or less tying women down to individual men, which some blackpillers propose. Hardcore blackpillers often promote suicide for incels.
The '''blackpill''' is an internet philosophy that female sexual desire is very inflexible,<ref>https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/she-felt-unloved/#comment-22914</ref> that women [[biological essentialism|naturally]] [[sexual selection|select]] men based on [[looks]] rather than [[personality]], and that [[good genes hypothesis|women select men with the best genes]]. Thus the belief system is more than just a belief in women being mostly [[lookism|lookist]] in dating. For blackpillers, ugly ('genetically inferior') men have no chance of getting laid without more or less tying women down to individual men, which some blackpillers propose.


Not all incels are blackpillers and [[noncel blackpiller|not all blackpillers are incels]]. The media often conflate the two, and falsely insist a belief in the blackpill is something all self-identified incels share.  Many self-identified incels do not believe in the blackpill and many reject the [[pill jargon|pill dichotomy]] altogether. More generally a 'blackpill' refers to anything associated with extreme fatalism, nihilism, pessimism, negativity, catastrophizing etc.
The media often conflates incels with the blackpill, but all incels don't share the blackpill philosophy. They also falsely insist a belief in the blackpill is something all self-identified incels share.  Many self-identified incels do not believe in the blackpill, and many reject the [[pill jargon|pill dichotomy]] altogether. In more general terms, a 'blackpill' usually refers to anything associated with extreme fatalism, nihilism, pessimism, negativity, catastrophizing etc.


==Origin of the term==
==Origin of the term==


The term blackpill was first used in 2011 by a blog commenter named ''Paragon'' on the Dalrock anti-[[feminist]] blog and later adopted by [[Omega Virgin Revolt|OmegaVirginRevolt's blog]]. Paragon said only mass poverty could solve men's systemic [[dating]] issues, as he saw that as the only mechanism that could bind women to men short of eugenics.  Modern blackpillers agree with Paragon that female desire is inflexible and that psychology is mostly determined by genetics.  However modern blackpillers favor mechanisms such as promiscuity-shaming instead of poverty, to bind individual women to individual men. Facing [[dating]] difficulties in Ontario (Canada), Paragon moved from Canada to the Philippines, a less prosperous country than Canada, and married there. In Paragon's own words:<ref name="ref208"></ref>
The term blackpill was first used in 2011 by a blog commenter named ''Paragon'' on the Dalrock anti-[[feminist]] blog and later adopted by [[Omega Virgin Revolt|OmegaVirginRevolt's blog]]. Paragon said only mass poverty could solve men's systemic [[dating]] issues, as he saw that as the only mechanism that could bind women to men short of eugenics.  Modern blackpillers agree with Paragon that female desire is inflexible and that psychology is mostly determined by genetics.  However, modern blackpillers favor mechanisms such as promiscuity-shaming instead of poverty, to bind individual women to individual men. Facing [[dating]] difficulties in Ontario (Canada), Paragon moved from Canada to the Philippines, a less prosperous country than Canada, and married there. In Paragon's own words:<ref name="ref208"></ref>


{{Quote|[…] to reconcile that there are no personal solutions to systemic problems—which can only resolve over evolutionary time.
{{Quote|[…] to reconcile that there are no personal solutions to systemic problems—which can only resolve over evolutionary time.
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On [[incels.co]], the current largest blackpill community, anywhere between 6% and 27% of users identify as [[alt-right]] (95% CI).<ref>https://incels.co/threads/whats-your-second-preferred-division-of-the-manosphere-after-incel.106366/</ref> and 49% identify as tradcon.<ref>https://incels.co/threads/the-ultimate-political-poll.61898/</ref>  Their continued non-banned presence on the forum<ref>https://incels.co/threads/to-the-wns-would-asians-or-hapas-be-allowed-in-the-ethnostate.108581/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/james-allsup-youtuber-casually-drops-the-race-realism-pill-on-1-5-million-viewers.109543/</ref> leads to constant threads complaining about race-baiting, far-right views, and there exists mild but ultimately toothless animosity between "stormfrontcels" and ethnic users. However, many openly racist users have also been banned.{{citation needed}}
On [[incels.co]], the current largest blackpill community, anywhere between 6% and 27% of users identify as [[alt-right]] (95% CI).<ref>https://incels.co/threads/whats-your-second-preferred-division-of-the-manosphere-after-incel.106366/</ref> and 49% identify as tradcon.<ref>https://incels.co/threads/the-ultimate-political-poll.61898/</ref>  Their continued non-banned presence on the forum<ref>https://incels.co/threads/to-the-wns-would-asians-or-hapas-be-allowed-in-the-ethnostate.108581/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/james-allsup-youtuber-casually-drops-the-race-realism-pill-on-1-5-million-viewers.109543/</ref> leads to constant threads complaining about race-baiting, far-right views, and there exists mild but ultimately toothless animosity between "stormfrontcels" and ethnic users. However, many openly racist users have also been banned.{{citation needed}}
Part of the reason this clash never resolves may be due to the fact that one of the admins of incels.co (Master) is both black and seemingly on the Breitbart-side of the alt-right, and he also does not enforce his worldview except occasionally and through mod and pinned post preferences. In general, he is not particularly zealous in his political opinions and can be best thought as picking up a [[4chan]] derived political atmosphere sympathetically rather than engineering it. Alt-right sentiment also bleeds into purplepill spaces. [[Incelistan.net]], a purplepill external forum, has hundreds of registered users, but their most active poster in early 2020 is an [[alt-right]] half-Jew, while their admin is not [[alt-right]].  Alt-righters tend to be very vocal.


===Traditionalism===
===Traditionalism===
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'''Bluepill''': The [[bluepill]] is pretty much the complete opposite of the blackpill.  Bluepillers tend to deny even biology determinism, and propose self-help, personality-altering, individualism, [[neoliberalism]], and other self-actualization type philosophies.  They also promote an overall positivity as a solution to inceldom.
'''Bluepill''': The [[bluepill]] is pretty much the complete opposite of the blackpill.  Bluepillers tend to deny even biology determinism, and propose self-help, personality-altering, individualism, [[neoliberalism]], and other self-actualization type philosophies.  They also promote an overall positivity as a solution to inceldom.
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'''Danger of a stricter culture''': A general danger of returning to stricter enforcement of norms and hierarchies is that it will be abused by those in power. For example, the notion of chivalry (man proves himself to and protects the woman), nationalism, obedience can quickly result in exploitation of low-status males and provoke wars between nations, or also possibly authoritarian outrages such as mass killings. It is a balancing act between maintaining order on the one hand and preventing highly coordinated conflict on the other.
'''Danger of a stricter culture''': A general danger of returning to stricter enforcement of norms and hierarchies is that those in power will abuse it. For example, the notion of chivalry (man proves himself to and protects the woman), nationalism, obedience can quickly result in exploitation of low-status males and provoke wars between nations, or also possibly authoritarian outrages such as mass killings. It is a balancing act between maintaining order on the one hand and preventing highly coordinated conflict on the other.
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'''Nurture vs nature''': In particular socialist, [[social constructionist]], [[bluepill]]ed and [[purplepill]]ed spaces criticize that the blackpill relies too heavily on [[biological essentialism]], i.e. sees human nature as more inflexible than it is.
'''Nurture vs nature''': In particular socialist, [[social constructionist]], [[bluepill]]ed and [[purplepill]]ed spaces criticize that the blackpill relies too heavily on [[biological essentialism]], i.e. sees human nature as more inflexible than it is.

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