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'''Monday FA Monday''', also known as, "'''Monday Blue'''", was a vlogger and public figure who used to vlog about his [[inceldom]] and the incelosphere. Although he frequently used the self-identifier "forever alone", he also uses the terms "incel" and "forever alone" interchangeably. He particularly used the terms interchangeably in his criticism of a short film called "[[Incel by John Merizalde|incel]]" by director John Merizalde.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A4TMblcspQ</ref>
'''Monday FA Monday''', also known as, "'''Monday Blue'''", was a vlogger and public figure who used to vlog about his [[inceldom]] and the incelosphere. Although he frequently used the self-identifier "forever alone", he also uses the terms "incel" and "forever alone" interchangeably. He particularly used the terms interchangeably in his criticism of a short film called "[[Incel by John Merizalde|incel]]" by director John Merizalde.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A4TMblcspQ</ref>


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Monday has argued that his personality does not suit his looks. "''Due to this mismatch''" women were, according to him, generally intimidated and/or disgusted by his calm, rational and seemingly cold-hearted demeanor.
Monday has argued that his personality does not suit his looks. "''Due to this mismatch''" women were, according to him, generally intimidated and/or disgusted by his calm, rational and seemingly cold-hearted demeanor.
== Beliefs about Inceldom ==
Monday believes that "looks-personality mismatches" can be a common reason men can become incels/FAs, i.e., some men may have personalities that contradict stereotypical personality types people tend to associate with certain appearances. Such apparent contradictions may be off-putting to people.
Monday believes that heightism against men is a very real and prolific problem among women; he has often referenced an ABC special featuring an experiment in which women are asked whether or not they would date men of varying heights. The women in the experiment only go for Stu, the shortest man in the experiment at 5' 0", when he is described as being very successful and charismatic, and all the other men are described as being complete losers or abominable. Monday has also talked about an incident in college where he overheard a group of women making very nasty comments about short men trying to hit on them.
Monday has talked about how people tend to be less forgiving of socially-inept people the older they are, and that this may be another reason men can become incels/FAs. Monday asserts that there is a crucial window of time, generally between the ages of 10 and 25, that young men must develop skills with women, and if something comes along and derails this process, then dating can be extremely difficult and confusing for young men.
Monday feels that incels/FAs are often given a lot of unhelpful advice from people who do not understand the incel/FA problem. In particular, he has criticized the often-touted mantra of "self-improvement". Monday has asserted that no one is really on a 'perpetual treadmill of self-improvement', and that average, and below-average men can successfully get girlfriends/wives they are attracted to.
Monday has talked about how some incels/FAs may suffer from geographic issues: some men may simply live in sparsely-populated areas where there aren't many opportunities to meet women. Some men may live in areas where there simply aren't many young single women, or there aren't many objectively attractive people (such as areas with high obesity).


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Monday began making appearances with said vlogger mentioned in the lede. She revealed herself as Annika, a right-leaning public figure, feminist, artificial intelligence fan, and  actress who uses her real name in her public persona.  She seems to dislike MGTOW and incels while painting herself as a victim and femcel. She stacy-splains incels constantly. Some have gotten the impression that from now on Monday FA Monday's comments under his videos will be heavily moderated, according to dictate of O'Brien.
Monday began making appearances with said vlogger mentioned in the lede. She revealed herself as Annika, a right-leaning public figure, feminist, artificial intelligence fan, and  actress who uses her real name in her public persona.  She seems to dislike MGTOW and incels while painting herself as a victim and femcel. She stacy-splains incels constantly. Some have gotten the impression that from now on Monday FA Monday's comments under his videos will be heavily moderated, according to dictate of O'Brien.


== Disappearance ==
==Disappearance==
On january 5 2020 Monday and his girlfriend, Annika O'Brian, went on a livestream with Steve Hoca and a few other TFL-ers. Annika did 99% of the talking and Monday barely said a few words (as he usually does when on video with her). Hoca came on the stream only half way through. Before he appeared, Annika spoke over the TFL-ers in a pretty condescending tone and tried to use blue-pill arguments to blame and shame TFL-ers, FA-ers and incels. She tried to claim that it was their fault for being single, not women's. She also made some pretty reasonable arguments countering feminism, women choosing to work instead of marrying and having children, and that women should be taught to value family and motherhood from childhood. When Steve Hoca came on, he was very angry and started blasting Annika, insulting and accusing her of many things, including of "using her sex appeal to advance in the workplace", and that "she is no real IT expert". They both tried to interrupt each other. Eventually, Hoca brought up Annika's dead husband. She went balistic and quit the stream. The other TFL-ers said that HOca should have been more calm and less harsh. He kind of agreed. Then Annika returned and she had a more modest and conciliatory pattern of speech. The stream ended kind of peacefuly. But in a few days, Monday uploaded a video commenting on that stream. He said that incels are evil and deserve to die alone in depression. Later in january, he uploaded another video claiming that it is not worth talking to, or trying to help, certain people - that for some it is too late, and they should be avoided. In a few days after, he privatised both his channels. Supposidly he claimed his father had discovered them and he wanted to stay private. He then closed his two Bitchute accounts as well. Since late january 2020 he has not returned yet. Annika had posted one video on her  Youtube channel, but then deleted it shortly after. However, she has made some livestreams on the channel of I Hypocrite, about other topics.
On january 5 2020 Monday and his girlfriend, Annika O'Brien, went on a livestream with Steve Hoca and a few other TFL-ers. Annika did 99% of the talking and Monday barely said a few words (as he usually does when on video with her). Hoca came on the stream only half way through. Before he appeared, Annika spoke over the TFL-ers in a pretty condescending tone and tried to use blue-pill arguments to blame and shame TFL-ers, FAs and incels. She tried to claim that it was their fault for being single, not women's. She also made some pretty reasonable arguments countering feminism, women choosing to work instead of marrying and having children, and that women should be taught to value family and motherhood from childhood. When Steve Hoca came on, he was very angry and started blasting Annika, insulting and accusing her of many things, including of "using her sex appeal to advance in the workplace", and that "she is no real IT expert". They both tried to interrupt each other. Eventually, Hoca brought up Annika's dead husband. She went ballistic and quit the stream. The other TFL-ers said that Hoca should have been more calm and less harsh. He kind of agreed. Then Annika returned and she had a more modest and conciliatory pattern of speech. The stream ended kind of peacefully. But in a few days, Monday uploaded a video commenting on that stream. He said that some incels are evil and deserve to die alone in depression. Later in January, he uploaded another video claiming that it is not worth talking to, or trying to help, certain people - that for some it is too late, and they should be avoided. In a few days after, he privatized both his channels. Supposedly he claimed his father had discovered them and he wanted to stay private. He then closed his two Bitchute accounts as well. Since late January 2020 he has not returned yet. Annika had posted one video on her  YouTube channel, but then deleted it shortly after. However, she has made some livestreams on the channel of I Hypocrite, about other topics.


==References==
==References==

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