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Baumeister has written about female gossip,<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022103117304195</ref> the [[pussy cartel]] (not in those words),<ref>https://assets.csom.umn.edu/assets/71503.pdf</ref> as well as about human self-regulation being limited.<ref>Baumeister, R. F., Bratslavsky, E., Muraven, M., & Tice, D. M. (1998). Ego depletion: Is the active self a limited resource? Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 74(5), 1252-1265.</ref>  He promotes the notion that throughout history men [[reproductive success|reproduced less than half as often]] as women.<ref>https://psy.fsu.edu/~baumeisterticelab/goodaboutmen.htm</ref>
Baumeister has written about female gossip,<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022103117304195</ref> the [[pussy cartel]] (not in those words),<ref>https://assets.csom.umn.edu/assets/71503.pdf</ref> as well as about human self-regulation being limited.<ref>Baumeister, R. F., Bratslavsky, E., Muraven, M., & Tice, D. M. (1998). Ego depletion: Is the active self a limited resource? Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 74(5), 1252-1265.</ref>  He promotes the notion that throughout history men [[reproductive success|reproduced less than half as often]] as women.<ref>https://psy.fsu.edu/~baumeisterticelab/goodaboutmen.htm</ref>


==Blackpill conflict==
Baumeister suspects women's sexuality is less physical and more malleable with respect to social norms.<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10825779</ref>
Although a lot of his observations are cited in the [[blackpill]] philosophy, contrary to a founding principle of [[blackpill|blackpill]] philosophy, Roy acknowledges female sexual ''desire'' (rather than just behaviour) as malleable by society in short time-frames.<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10825779</ref>  Contrary to further additions to blackpill philosophy, he also suggests that men's sexuality is more superficial and physically oriented than women.  He believes female sex-drive is more malleable by society than male sexuality, what he dubs a 'high erotic plasticity'.<ref>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10825779/</ref> And he suggests that the malleability makes women suited for cultural progress as it relates to sexuality, rather than degeneration-due-to-lookist-inflexibility as the [[blackpill]] states.
These views are much more aligned with mainstream [[bluepill]]ed literature than Baumeister's other research on sexuality.


{{Quote|"Men's sexuality revolves around ''physical'' factors, in which nature is predominant and the social and cultural dimension is secondary. For women, cultural factors play a much greater role, and the role of physical processes and biological nature is smaller"}}
{{Quote|"The plasticity of the female sex ''drive'' [note: not just behaviour] offers greater capacity to adapt to changing external circumstances as well as an opportunity for culture to exert a controlling influence. From the global perspective of the broader society, if controlling people's behavior is the goal, women's sexual patterns are more easily changed than men's."
{{Quote|"The plasticity of the female sex ''drive'' [note: not just behaviour] offers greater capacity to adapt to changing external circumstances as well as an opportunity for culture to exert a controlling influence. From the global perspective of the broader society, if controlling people's behavior is the goal, women's sexual patterns are more easily changed than men's."}}


{{Quote|"If the sex drive is socioculturally malleable, then there exist ''many possible directions'' in which to pursue social progress and individual fulfillment. [in contrast to the blackpill which suggests either reaction or fatalism] In contrast, if the sex drive is fixed and static, then society must ultimately accommodate and confront those patterns, and individual choice will be a matter of pursuing those innate, inflexible desires.
"If the sex drive is socioculturally malleable, then there exist ''many possible directions'' in which to pursue social progress and individual fulfillment. In contrast, if the sex drive is fixed and static, then society must ultimately accommodate and confront those patterns, and individual choice will be a matter of pursuing those innate, inflexible desires. The gender difference in erotic plasticity suggests that women present a better prospect for achieving cultural progress than men, at least with regard to sexuality."}}
The gender difference in erotic plasticity suggests that women present a better prospect for achieving cultural progress than men, at least with regard to sexuality. "}}


Roy offered a few possible explanations
Roy offered three possible explanations:<ref>https://blog.kareldonk.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Gender_and_Erotic_Plasticity__Sociocultural_Influences_on_the_Sex_Drive.pdf</ref>
*Women have had to change their minds about sexual opportunities more than men because of being [[sexual selector]]s for millions of years,<ref>Baumeister referencing Buss &
 
Schmitt, 1993</ref> making their inherent sexuality more flexible to environment
* The gender difference in physical strength and power may have selected female sexuality to be flexible so as to accommodate to the men, leading to a more [[sex drive#Female_passivity|passive]] and malleable sexuality. In fact, women may have been selected for conformity<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#90.25_of_victims_of_workplace_mass_hysteria_are_women</ref> due to the historically highly prevalent social rules constraining their reproductive behavior for the purpose of [[paternity assurance]].
*Women's weaker sex drive makes it more prone to being malleable
* A weaker sex drive may imply a greater plasticity, whereas strong and powerful drives are less prone to socializing and civilizing influences.
*Evidence from academic research on molestation suggests childhood 'imprints' male sexuality whereas it does not for females
* Over the course of [[courtship]] women spontaneously switch from a coy deferral of sex to admitting of it. This may require a general readiness to change, which could have led to greater plasticity.
 
This line of research can either be seen to be in agreement with the traditionalist [[blackpill]] in that it points to women's [[hypergamy|hypergamous]] sexuality being controllable by social norms, or it can point to alternative directions which constrain individual fulfillment less as many possible directions are conceivable.


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