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The current lede portrays feminism as a ''reaction'' to technology and post-hoc credit taking, rather than a particularly effective or active force on its own, which I believe is the most accurate take[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 22:04, 9 March 2020 (UTC) | The current lede portrays feminism as a ''reaction'' to technology and post-hoc credit taking, rather than a particularly effective or active force on its own, which I believe is the most accurate take[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 22:04, 9 March 2020 (UTC) | ||
: I guess it's both, a reaction and a movement. I'm not sure what came first, tech or ideology, but I'd bet on tech. Without tampons and service sector women would be too dependent on men to make up much of a movement and there would be no meaningful economic incentive to change that [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 00:04, 10 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
Also RE inceldom, gender equality doesn't seem to correlate much with inceldom in modern countries, rather the opposite. Inceldom is arguably exacerbated by the destruction of any long-term social institutions geared towards social cohesion (like the family, the welfare state, or maybe even religion), but that is neither the root cause of inceldom nor the result of any active movement imo.[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 22:11, 9 March 2020 (UTC) | Also RE inceldom, gender equality doesn't seem to correlate much with inceldom in modern countries, rather the opposite. Inceldom is arguably exacerbated by the destruction of any long-term social institutions geared towards social cohesion (like the family, the welfare state, or maybe even religion), but that is neither the root cause of inceldom nor the result of any active movement imo.[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 22:11, 9 March 2020 (UTC) | ||
: Disagree. Destruction of the family seems to be the main cause of femceldom and inceldom, mainly driven by feminist and environmentalist ideologues, some economists masquerading as such, as well as atheists. https://twitter.com/AnechoicMedia_/status/920097990555025413 [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 00:04, 10 March 2020 (UTC) | |||