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:Also, This article has served as place for you to paint the blackpill as something that has scientific rigor, which is not what this article is about, but you can do whatever you want on the scientific blackpill page.  You have written 90% of the content on the blackpill page, expanding it enormously in way that makes it seem like the wiki is a blackpill wiki rather than an incel wiki.  I think you've put in enough of your opinion here and I'm done seeing this page turn into this monolith, or a political advocacy page that is pill-biased.  Limerencel was just drive-by editing to make the lede more congruent with the rest of the page, which is mostly a boring repetition of facts to make the blackpill seem like a scientific discipline, which it is not. [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 13:15, 29 February 2020 (UTC)s
:Also, This article has served as place for you to paint the blackpill as something that has scientific rigor, which is not what this article is about, but you can do whatever you want on the scientific blackpill page.  You have written 90% of the content on the blackpill page, expanding it enormously in way that makes it seem like the wiki is a blackpill wiki rather than an incel wiki.  I think you've put in enough of your opinion here and I'm done seeing this page turn into this monolith, or a political advocacy page that is pill-biased.  Limerencel was just drive-by editing to make the lede more congruent with the rest of the page, which is mostly a boring repetition of facts to make the blackpill seem like a scientific discipline, which it is not. [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 13:15, 29 February 2020 (UTC)s


:: You are raising good points. Then I think we should make a clear distinction: You are right that there was and still is an extremely cultish blackpill movement on incels.co with an obnoxious hyperfocus on looks ("join us and LDAR" etc.), which I have admittedly never paid close attention to. Reddit also had lots of this (which presumably caused Reddit to shut down these subs), but there was a separate blackpill culture on Reddit which was mostly about edgy memeing and scientific curiosity about dating studies (e.g. blackpillscience). It was edgy memeing (like political satire) about how hopeless the dating sphere seemed, rather than actual advice to give up, at least for me and I'm sure for many others (I've seen others describing it as "a place to vent"). So, these are two separate things.
:: You are raising good points. Then I think we should make a clear distinction: You are right that there was and still is an extremely cultish blackpill movement on incels.co with an obnoxious hyperfocus on looks ("join us and LDAR" etc.), which I have admittedly never paid close attention to. Reddit also had lots of this (which presumably caused Reddit to shut down these subs), but there was a separate blackpill culture on Reddit in the same subs which was mostly about edgy memeing and scientific curiosity about dating studies (e.g. blackpillscience). It was edgy memeing (like political satire) about how hopeless the dating sphere seemed, rather than actual advice to give up, at least for me and I'm sure for many others (I've seen others describing it as "a place to vent"). So, these are two separate things.


:: Maybe we should after all move all of the science-y stuff to [[Scientific Blackpill (Summary)]] as discussed before. I'd also be willing to move the more political considerations to a user subpage as it adds aspects to the movement which were novel rather than descriptive. The only reason I started summarizing the Scientific Blackpill on [[Blackpill]] was that it already mentioned some science on looks and dual mating (much of which were wrong or outdated). [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 14:13, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
:: Maybe we should after all move all of the science-y stuff to [[Scientific Blackpill (Summary)]] as discussed before. I'd also be willing to move the more political considerations to a user subpage as it adds aspects to the movement which were novel rather than descriptive. The only reason I started summarizing the Scientific Blackpill on [[Blackpill]] was that it already mentioned some science on looks and dual mating (much of which were wrong or outdated). [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 14:13, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
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