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== Ineffectiveness ==
== Ineffectiveness ==


Incels argue that 'game' is mostly irrelevant in the modern dating sphere.  This may be because the modern dating sphere emphasizes speed and shallow interactions.  Only physical attractiveness predicts initial romantic interest in blind dating and strongly so.<ref>https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fh0021188</ref> This suggests game unrelated to [[fashion]] or [[photo composition]] is ineffective in blind or semi-blind dating scenarios like speed dating or online app dating.<ref>https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fh0021188</ref> When OkCupid asked users to rate looks and personality separately, users did not distinguish between the two.<ref>https://archive.li/QNCbf</ref>  To confirm their hypothesis that pictures were what people were rating as good personality, Okcupid followed up with another internal study which showed that online bio text accounts for less than 10% of what users think of the profiles.<ref>https://archive.li/QNCbf</ref> [[Online dating]] is now the primary way people meet for relationships.<ref>https://qz.com/1546677/around-40-of-us-couples-now-first-meet-online/</ref> However, [[online dating]] can also include meeting up through primarily platonic sites like Youtube or Facebook, where personality may play a larger role than on dating apps.
Multiple studies on face-to-face, [[online dating|online]] and [[blind dating]] concluded that among a variety of physical and personality traits, including extroversion, ''only physical attractiveness'' predicted initial romantic interest and strongly so.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Looks_are_most_important_to_women_in_speed_dating</ref><ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Looks_are_most_important_to_women_in_video_dating</ref><ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Looks_are_most_important_to_women_in_blind_dating</ref> Since game largely amounts to extroversion and confidence, this suggests game is ineffective in blind or semi-blind face-to-face settings.
 
Similarly, when OkCupid asked users to rate looks and personality separately, users did not distinguish between the two.<ref>https://archive.li/QNCbf</ref>  To confirm their hypothesis that pictures were what people were rating as good personality, OkCupid followed up with another internal study which showed that online bio text accounts for less than 10% of what users think of the profiles.<ref>https://archive.li/QNCbf</ref> This means ''game'' in terms of witty and confident textual self-descriptions is also largely ineffective.
Meeting online is notably now the primary way people meet for relationships,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Meeting_online_is_now_the_primary_way_relationships_are_formed</ref> however, this includes meeting up through social networks and chats, where personality may play a larger role than in the blind and semi-blind dating.
 
Arguably, game may work outside of the face-to-face dating context, e.g. during socializing in a group, which is the more natural human mating context anyhow.<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1474704919887706</ref> In a social context, confidence, game and charm may act as means of gaining [[dominance hierarchy|social status]] and intimidating other males in [[intrasexual competition]]s which, in turn, enables men access to women.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Men.27s_social_status_accounts_for_62.25_of_the_variance_of_copulation_opportunities</ref> This is perhaps how PUAs came up with the concept. There is possibly a cultural element, in that anything beyond looks is not valued in the modern world, but one of the studies that found personality to play no role dates back to 1966s, so the superficiality is unlikely a novel phenomenon.


==Other studies on frame-projection==
==Other studies on frame-projection==
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