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{{Quote|The rise in incel complaints is due to women gaining more purchase as financially and socially independent people. The days of needing a man, any man, to live any kind of decent life are long gone, leaving women to marry (in most cases) only if a man can prove his worth as a friend, lover and asset in her life.}} | {{Quote|The rise in incel complaints is due to women gaining more purchase as financially and socially independent people. The days of needing a man, any man, to live any kind of decent life are long gone, leaving women to marry (in most cases) only if a man can prove his worth as a friend, lover and asset in her life.}} | ||
== | ==Men always had the shit-stick in dating== | ||
This is wrong. Men still had to prove their worth in every patriarchy. This is touted by [[tradcon]]s as [[sexual sublimination]], as part of [[socialization]], [[chivalry]], and [[neoliberalism|'manning up'. In other words, feminists are looking at tradconism now and start thinking it's this great new invention. Now, it sucked then and it still sucks now. | This is wrong. Men still had to prove their worth in every patriarchy. This is touted by [[tradcon]]s as [[sexual sublimination]], as part of [[socialization]], [[chivalry]], and [[neoliberalism|'manning up'. In other words, feminists are looking at tradconism now and start thinking it's this great new invention. Now, it sucked then and it still sucks now. | ||
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Incels became more vocal with 4chan culture and other not because inceldom is new, (in fact during patriarchy it was arguably worse). | Incels became more vocal with 4chan culture and other not because inceldom is new, (in fact during patriarchy it was arguably worse). | ||
Incels became more vocal because of the increase of [[misandry]] | ==So why do incels complain?== | ||
Incels became more vocal because of | |||
*the increase of [[misandry]] | |||
*the commodification of sex (ie sex IS commodified, not incels misframing it) | |||
*and the theoretical availability of safer sex. |