Essay:Why do incels complain now?: Difference between revisions

Jump to navigation Jump to search
no edit summary
No edit summary
No edit summary
Line 1: Line 1:
{{Essay|William}}
{{Essay|William}}


This overlaps with the question of 'why do incels act out more now?'.  Although, I want to avoid heading in that direction of thought as I don't advocate violence etc..
==The normie response==
There is a dominant and false feminist narrative that goes like this:
There is a dominant and false feminist narrative that goes like this:


{{Quote|The rise in incel complaints is due to women gaining more purchase as financially and socially independent people. The days of needing a man, any man, to live any kind of decent life are long gone, leaving women to marry (in most cases) only if a man can prove his worth as a friend, lover and asset in her life.}}
{{Quote|The rise in incel complaints is due to women gaining more purchase as financially and socially independent people. The days of needing a man, any man, to live any kind of decent life are long gone, leaving women to marry (in most cases) only if a man can prove his worth as a friend, lover and asset in her life.}}


==The real answer==
This is wrong.  Men still had to prove their worth in every patriarchy. This is touted by [[tradcon]]s as [[sexual sublimination]], as part of [[socialization]], [[chivalry]], and [[neoliberalism|'manning up'.  In other words, feminists are looking at tradconism now and start thinking it's this great new invention.  Now, it sucked then and it still sucks now.
This is wrong.  Men still had to prove their worth in every patriarchy. This is touted by [[tradcon]]s as [[sexual sublimination]], as part of [[socialization]], [[chivalry]], and [[neoliberalism|'manning up'.  In other words, feminists are looking at tradconism now and start thinking it's this great new invention.  Now, it sucked then and it still sucks now.


Men always had to prove their "worth". In medieval times if you were ostracized you joined the 20% of people dying on the streets. In the 19th century, if your dad cockblocked you, you joined the 70% of men under 25 who weren't married and probably weren't having sex.
So yes, men always had to prove their "worth". In medieval times if you were ostracized you joined the 20% of people dying on the streets. In the 19th century, if your dad cockblocked you, you joined the 70% of men under 25 who weren't married and probably weren't having sex.
Incels became more vocal with 4chan culture and other not because inceldom is new, (in fact during patriarchy it was arguably worse).  
Incels became more vocal with 4chan culture and other not because inceldom is new, (in fact during patriarchy it was arguably worse).  


Incels became more vocal because of the increase of [[misandry]], the commodification of sex (ie sex IS commodified, not incels misframing it), and the theoretical availability of safer sex.
Incels became more vocal because of the increase of [[misandry]], the commodification of sex (ie sex IS commodified, not incels misframing it), and the theoretical availability of safer sex.
25,837

edits

Navigation menu