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tl;dr, framing it as "do co-ed classes improve the incels situation", and then stuffing the paragraph with correlates is odd when co-ed classes clearly help incels (a tiny bit). Framing it as "how much do they help" is more accurate. The only reason someone might take such objection to this would be if they thought that co-ed classes ''hurt'' incels chances, which is just not accurate.[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 21:20, 25 December 2019 (UTC) | tl;dr, framing it as "do co-ed classes improve the incels situation", and then stuffing the paragraph with correlates is odd when co-ed classes clearly help incels (a tiny bit). Framing it as "how much do they help" is more accurate. The only reason someone might take such objection to this would be if they thought that co-ed classes ''hurt'' incels chances, which is just not accurate.[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 21:20, 25 December 2019 (UTC) | ||
: the implications of this study was very limited as it only looked at averages, did not break down by social status. e.g. it could be that high status males have more sex in | : the implications of this study was very limited as it only looked at averages, did not break down by social status. e.g. it could be that high status males have more sex in co-ed, but low status males less, so it cancels out most of the effect. evidence for this in the proposal below. [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 21:51, 25 December 2019 (UTC) | ||
On a more personal note, I went to sex-segregated school my whole life, there is no way in hell you can convince me that shit is good for incels in the absence of arranged partnerships. Like half my classmates from those things are still incels. The idea that spending no time around women growing up would be a boon to your social skills with women is just insane. On the other hand, co-ed classes can be miserable too, but at least you have a shot.[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 21:24, 25 December 2019 (UTC) | On a more personal note, I went to sex-segregated school my whole life, there is no way in hell you can convince me that shit is good for incels in the absence of arranged partnerships. Like half my classmates from those things are still incels. The idea that spending no time around women growing up would be a boon to your social skills with women is just insane. On the other hand, co-ed classes can be miserable too, but at least you have a shot.[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 21:24, 25 December 2019 (UTC) | ||
: I suspect both are bad, but | : I suspect both are bad, but co-ed slightly worse (evidence below). [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 21:51, 25 December 2019 (UTC) | ||
== Proposal for section == | == Proposal for section == | ||