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We have one study in there that controls for time that Bibipi graciously gave. In that study, having it be co-ed improves the man's chances. Inceldom rates vs. co-ed rates since 1990 is not strong evidence of the benefit of being in a co-ed class vs. not. It only shows that co-ed classes are not anywhere near enough to reverse inceldom. The only reason I would still think co-ed classes wouldn't be good would be if for some reason having men and women together destroys the social fabric or whatever, and ''that'' causes inceldom down the line, but that's both unlikely and hard to prove. | We have one study in there that controls for time that Bibipi graciously gave. In that study, having it be co-ed improves the man's chances by a small amount. Inceldom rates vs. co-ed rates since 1990 is not strong evidence of the benefit of being in a co-ed class vs. not. It only shows that co-ed classes are not anywhere near enough to reverse inceldom. The only reason I would still think co-ed classes wouldn't be good would be if for some reason having men and women together destroys the social fabric or whatever, and ''that'' causes inceldom down the line, but that's both unlikely and hard to prove. | ||
It's like the antidepressant argument. I can say that antidepressants '''don't work'' because suicide rates are going up. Well, that actually doesn't prove that antidepressants don't work. It's just an argument that they are not strong antidepressants and they shouldn't be used as first line treatment. To prove they don't work you need to reference a good study that isn't just correlation, which then show that yes, antidepressants don't actually work. | It's like the antidepressant argument. I can say that antidepressants '''don't work'' because suicide rates are going up. Well, that actually doesn't prove that antidepressants don't work. It's just an argument that they are not strong antidepressants and they shouldn't be used as first line treatment. To prove they don't work you need to reference a good study that isn't just correlation, which then show that yes, antidepressants don't actually work. | ||