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We have one study in there that controls for time. In that study, having it be co-ed improves the man's chances. Inceldom rates vs. co-ed rates since 1990 is not strong evidence of the benefit of being in a co-ed class vs. not. It only shows that co-ed classes are not anywhere near enough to reverse inceldom. | We have one study in there that controls for time that Bibipi graciously gave. In that study, having it be co-ed improves the man's chances. Inceldom rates vs. co-ed rates since 1990 is not strong evidence of the benefit of being in a co-ed class vs. not. It only shows that co-ed classes are not anywhere near enough to reverse inceldom. | ||
It's like the antidepressant argument. I can say that antidepressants '''don't work'' because suicide rates are going up. Well, that actually doesn't prove that antidepressants don't work. It's just an argument that they are not strong antidepressants and they shouldn't be used as first line treatment. To prove they don't work you need to reference a good study that isn't just correlation, which then show that yes, antidepressants don't actually work. | It's like the antidepressant argument. I can say that antidepressants '''don't work'' because suicide rates are going up. Well, that actually doesn't prove that antidepressants don't work. It's just an argument that they are not strong antidepressants and they shouldn't be used as first line treatment. To prove they don't work you need to reference a good study that isn't just correlation, which then show that yes, antidepressants don't actually work. | ||
tl;dr, framing it as "do co-ed classes improve the incels situation" is a weird question because of course it does. Framing it as "how much" is more accurate.[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 21:20, 25 December 2019 (UTC) | tl;dr, framing it as "do co-ed classes improve the incels situation" is a weird question because of course it does. Framing it as "how much" is more accurate.[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 21:20, 25 December 2019 (UTC) | ||