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==Controversy among incels over women in STEM==
== Do women in STEM increase or decrease STEMcel rates? ==
A female entry into low-paying or educational STEM spaces, while it may be corrupting to the STEM field, may slow down the acceleration of inceldom. According to a study by Ivy [[penis|Wong]], students in single-sex classes report later onset of dating experience than members of co-ed classes.<ref>https://doi.org/10.1007/s10508-018-1187-6</ref> According to the [[Donnelly Study]], some incels report gender segregation in work and lack of exposure to females in general as a cause of their celibacy. "Virginal and single men were more likely to be in sex-segregated occupations than women and to see this as a barrier".<ref>http://cda.morris.umn.edu/~meeklesr/celibacy.html</ref>  Redditor's also mention lack of exposure to the opposite gender as a cause of their inceldom (the 9th most common cause).<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/326904341_Why_Men_Stay_Single_Evidence_from_Reddit</ref>
A female entry into STEM spaces, while it may be corrupting to the STEM field, it is not entirely clear how much it affects the prevalence of inceldom. Theoretically, the greater prevalence of the opposite sex should imply more opportunities for finding a partner.
Indeed, acording to a study by Ivy [[penis|Wong]], students in single-sex classes report later onset of dating experience and fewer dating partners than members of co-ed classes,<ref>https://doi.org/10.1007/s10508-018-1187-6</ref> however the effect sizes were small (d = .2) and in most other measures of sexual activity there were no significant effects.
According to the [[Donnelly Study]], some incels report gender segregation in work and lack of exposure to females in general as a cause of their celibacy, especially among male incels.<ref>http://cda.morris.umn.edu/~meeklesr/celibacy.html</ref>  A study of Redditors found lack of exposure to the opposite gender as the ~9th most common cause with roughly half as many mentions in an AskReddit thread they analyzed than the most common cause (ugliness).<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/326904341_Why_Men_Stay_Single_Evidence_from_Reddit</ref>


This does not mean that decreasing sex segregation alone would stop or reverse rising inceldom as incel proponents of traditional social arrangements point out. Women in non-segregated environments still discriminate against incels, as meeting through coworkers has declined 50% since 1990 despite decreasing gender segregation.<ref>https://www.swiss-miss.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Screenshot-2019-07-14-19.41.53-480x377.png</ref> Traditionalists may also point to past sex-segregated societies where partnership were more or less arranged outside work as proof that one can have a sex-segregated workplace without inceldom.
On the other hand, most STEM jobs are fairly high-status positions, so women will feel like having fairly high status working in them, and hence they are expected to become more choosy about other men's incomes (see [[hypergamy]]). In addition, with [[Metoo]] and other anti-harrassment measures, the workplace is becoming a more unpopular place for sexual relationships to form, e.g. meeting through coworkers has declined 50% since 1990 despite decreasing gender segregation.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Meeting_online_is_now_the_primary_way_relationships_are_formed</ref>
As much as 28% of men reported they avoid one-on-one meetings with female work collegues.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#27.25_of_men_report_avoiding_one-on-one_meetings_with_female_work_colleagues</ref>
Also even though sex-segregation has increased, the incel rates are at all-time high (see [[demographics]]). [[Jordan Peterson]] also mentioned an anecdote that only few men in a predominantly female university course got to have relationships despite the surplus of females.<ref>https://youtube.com/watch?v=jsMqSBB3ZTY?t=293</ref> In some forums incels, men lamented that they have many female coworkers, but no contact to them.{{citation needed}} Peterson has also questioned whether men and women can generally cooperate well at all.


==Women as "pioneers in STEM"==
==Women as "pioneers in STEM"==
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