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===Ancient times===
===Ancient times===
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The first known pick up artist is Ovid, Roman author born in 43 BC.  
The first known pick up artist is Ovid, Roman author born in 43 BC.  
Ovid's work "ars amandi" (art of love) concerns the seduction of a woman: he explains seduction is a scientific discipline, which can be taught by a "love professor", afterwards he describes accurate strategies to seduct women, like deceiving them.<br><br>
Ovid's work "ars amandi" (art of love) concerns the seduction of a woman: he explains seduction is a scientific discipline, which can be taught by a "love professor", afterwards he describes accurate strategies to seduct women, like deceiving them.<br><br>
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===Modern Times===
===Modern Times===
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[[Giacomo Casanova]] is the most famous PUA of 18th Century, in fact he wrote the book "History of My Life" in which he explained the strategy he uses to seduce women: he claimed he seduced girls with "conversation skills" that he used to arouse emotions into women who consequently developed sexual desire for him, however the truth is Casanova was a liar who didn't actually use "conversation skills" to attract women but his [[LMS]], infact he was extremely tall (20cm above average), very attractive and even very rich.
[[Giacomo Casanova]] is the most famous PUA of 18th Century, in fact he wrote the book "History of My Life" in which he explained the strategy he uses to seduce women: he claimed he seduced girls with "conversation skills" that he used to arouse emotions into women who consequently developed sexual desire for him, however the truth is Casanova was a liar who didn't actually use "conversation skills" to attract women but his [[LMS]], infact he was extremely tall (20cm above average), very attractive and even very rich.


===20th century===
===20th century===
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The modern P.U.A movement started in the 1970s with the rise of hook up culture after the [[sexual revolution]] in modern western countries. Now it is more common for men to play the field and seek out casual sexual encounters before marriage. Due to the existence of female [[hypergamy]] and [[Bateman's Principle]], many men that are not physically blessed are having poor prospects of casual sex encounters and thus a market niche was formed catering to their desire to improve their prospects. From the 1960's to the 1980's there were a small amount of, become a playboy, type pick up artist guides.
The modern P.U.A movement started in the 1970s with the rise of hook up culture after the [[sexual revolution]] in modern western countries. Now it is more common for men to play the field and seek out casual sexual encounters before marriage. Due to the existence of female [[hypergamy]] and [[Bateman's Principle]], many men that are not physically blessed are having poor prospects of casual sex encounters and thus a market niche was formed catering to their desire to improve their prospects. From the 1960's to the 1980's there were a small amount of, become a playboy, type pick up artist guides.


===1990s===
===1990s===
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'''Jeffries'''
'''Jeffries'''
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===2000s===
===2000s===
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'''Angelo'''
'''Angelo'''


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===2010s===
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'''Manosphere'''
'''Manosphere'''


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== Getting the police called on incels ==
== Getting the police called on incels ==
Pick up artists often sell useless bootcamps, scamming hopeful incels out of thousands of dollars and putting them at risk of macing, arrest, and harassment allegations.  The first popular P.U.A book was written by [[Ross Jeffries]] and is called [[How to Get the Women You Desire into Bed]]..  There is a [[disclaimer]] on the first few pages warning that the contents could easily get one arrested if acted out fully. P.U.A [[Julien Blanc]] caused mass outrage among feminists online when videos of the guy choking random women during cold approaches went viral.
Pick up artists often sell useless bootcamps, scamming hopeful incels out of thousands of dollars and putting them at risk of macing, arrest, and harassment allegations.  The first popular P.U.A book was written by [[Ross Jeffries]] and is called [[How to Get the Women You Desire into Bed]]..  There is a [[disclaimer]] on the first few pages warning that the contents could easily get one arrested if acted out fully. P.U.A [[Julien Blanc]] caused mass outrage among feminists online when videos of the guy choking random women during cold approaches went viral.


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==Does game work?==
==Does game work?==
{{main_article|[[Game]]}}
{{main_article|[[Game]]}}
Put two pick-up artists with equal fame and money with normal [[social skills]] in a bar. Then approach an equal number of women, and the better looking guy will get the girl.
Put two pick-up artists with equal fame and money with normal [[social skills]] in a bar. Then approach an equal number of women, and the better looking guy will get the girl.


==Victims==
==Victims==
[[George Sodini]] is a well known incel victim of pick-up artists.
[[George Sodini]] is a well known incel victim of pick-up artists.


==Incels vs. pick up artists==
==Incels vs. pick up artists==
The pick up artist scene (now mostly found on [[The Red Pill|/r/TRP]]) has always been at odds with most incel communities.  One site that had a lot of incels: [[PSL|PUAhate.com]] was almost exclusively dedicated to exposing pick up artists during first years of the site.  Similarly [[r/TRP]] hates on incels.  The difference is in philosophy.  
The pick up artist scene (now mostly found on [[The Red Pill|/r/TRP]]) has always been at odds with most incel communities.  One site that had a lot of incels: [[PSL|PUAhate.com]] was almost exclusively dedicated to exposing pick up artists during first years of the site.  Similarly [[r/TRP]] hates on incels.  The difference is in philosophy.  


P.U.A's (and [[feminists]]) think men pick up women through [[social skills]] almost exclusively.
PUA's (and [[feminists]]) think men pick up women through [[social skills]] almost exclusively.
Self-identified incels (and others) instead advocate [[LMS|L.M.S]]  
Self-identified incels (and others) instead advocate [[LMS|L.M.S]]  


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==See also==
==See also==
*[[List of fraudulent people in the seduction community]] (almost everyone basically)
*[[List of fraudulent people in the seduction community]] (almost everyone basically)
*[[Winston Wu]]
*[[Winston Wu]]
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*[[Chateau Heartiste]]
*[[Chateau Heartiste]]
*[[Crabs in a bucket]]
*[[Crabs in a bucket]]
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[[category:manosphere]]
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==References==
==References==
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{{Behavioralism}}
{{Behavioralism}}
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