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The '''blackpill''' is the claim that traditionalism<ref>https://incels.co/threads/me-52m-just-found-out-at-least-4-of-my-5-children-33f-30f-28m-24f-14f-are-not-mine-wife-51f-wont-say-anything.115218/page-3#post-2959506</ | The '''blackpill''' is the claim that traditionalism<ref>https://incels.co/threads/me-52m-just-found-out-at-least-4-of-my-5-children-33f-30f-28m-24f-14f-are-not-mine-wife-51f-wont-say-anything.115218/page-3#post-2959506</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/if-men-cant-be-protectors-providers-theyll-be-destroyers-deprivers.140942/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/being-anti-religion-is-not-only-contradictory-but-also-completely-anti-incels.146724/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/for-normies-inceltears-modern-day-expressions-of-female-sexuality-are-cringe-just-posturing-trying-to-emulate-male-sexuality-penis-envy.145710/#post-3061135</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/germany-1950-was-an-incel-wet-dream.147144/#post-3085283</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/for-normies-inceltears-modern-day-expressions-of-female-sexuality-are-cringe-just-posturing-trying-to-emulate-male-sexuality-penis-envy.145710/#post-3061135</ref> is a necessary response to [[the incel problem]] to prevent social collapse.<ref>https://incels.co/threads/me-52m-just-found-out-at-least-4-of-my-5-children-33f-30f-28m-24f-14f-are-not-mine-wife-51f-wont-say-anything.115218/page-3#post-2959506</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/if-men-cant-be-protectors-providers-theyll-be-destroyers-deprivers.140942/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/being-anti-religion-is-not-only-contradictory-but-also-completely-anti-incels.146724/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/for-normies-inceltears-modern-day-expressions-of-female-sexuality-are-cringe-just-posturing-trying-to-emulate-male-sexuality-penis-envy.145710/#post-3061135</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/germany-1950-was-an-incel-wet-dream.147144/#post-3085283</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/for-normies-inceltears-modern-day-expressions-of-female-sexuality-are-cringe-just-posturing-trying-to-emulate-male-sexuality-penis-envy.145710/#post-3061135</ref> Some blackpillers think that social collapse has already arrived and is irreversable in our lifetime and hence advocate fatalism.<ref>https://incels.co/threads/glassespill-its-over-for-glasscels-do-not-enter-if-vision-is-not-20-20.136257/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/its-over-for-boliviancels.136006/</ref> Blackpillers are mostly concerned with rising [[lookism]] which started after the industrial and sexual revolutions. Most blackpillers are atheist, but some promote cultural christianity. | ||
The blackpill used to be less traditionalist and political before the [[braincels]] ban, although r/Celouts still exists and may use the term in a less political way. | The blackpill used to be less traditionalist and political before the [[braincels]] ban, although r/Celouts still exists and may use the term in a less political way. | ||
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Also, among widely different cultures, universal standards for [[beauty]] exist<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3130383/</ref> and women almost universally prefer tall men to short men.<ref>https://research.similarminds.com/romantic-height-preferences-in-men-and-women/227</ref> | Also, among widely different cultures, universal standards for [[beauty]] exist<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3130383/</ref> and women almost universally prefer tall men to short men.<ref>https://research.similarminds.com/romantic-height-preferences-in-men-and-women/227</ref> | ||
Taken together, these research findings strongly suggest that the preference for [[beauty]] is largely innate, likely evolved by [[Fisherian runaway|sexual selection]], rather than by social construction. | Taken together, these research findings strongly suggest that the preference for [[beauty]] is largely innate, likely evolved by [[Fisherian runaway|sexual selection]], rather than by social construction. | ||
People also automatically associate physical attractiveness with various positive traits to an unreasonable degree, e.g. a good personality, humor, morality, intelligence and health.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Attractive_people_are_perceived_much_more_positively_than_they_really_are</ref> | People also automatically associate physical attractiveness with various positive traits to an unreasonable degree, e.g. a good personality, humor, morality, intelligence and health ([[halo effect]]).<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Attractive_people_are_perceived_much_more_positively_than_they_really_are</ref> | ||
This may even affect parents treating their good looking offspring better.<ref>https://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/03/health/ugly-children-may-get-parental-short-shrift.html</ref> In contrast to intuitive judgements, looks are only weakly related to health and even less with morality or cognitive ability which suggests beauty [[Fisherian runaway|evolved only because it looks good]]. | This may even affect parents treating their good looking offspring better.<ref>https://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/03/health/ugly-children-may-get-parental-short-shrift.html</ref> In contrast to intuitive judgements, looks are only weakly related to health and even less with morality or cognitive ability which suggests beauty [[Fisherian runaway|evolved only because it looks good]]. | ||
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Conversely, very unattractive women were more likely being married than other women, providing some evidence for [[Juggernaut law]].<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#.27Very_unattractive.27_women_are_more_likely_to_be_married_than_other_women</ref> | Conversely, very unattractive women were more likely being married than other women, providing some evidence for [[Juggernaut law]].<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#.27Very_unattractive.27_women_are_more_likely_to_be_married_than_other_women</ref> | ||
The more attractive the male partner, the sooner women allow for sex to occur<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#A_man.27s_physical_attractiveness_predicts_how_long_he_waits_before_a_woman_will_allow_sex</ref> | The more attractive the male partner, the sooner women allow for sex to occur<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#A_man.27s_physical_attractiveness_predicts_how_long_he_waits_before_a_woman_will_allow_sex</ref> | ||
and the less likely they would prefer a condom | and the less likely they would prefer a condom,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_are_less_likely_to_use_a_condom_with_a_more_attractive_male_partner</ref> providing evidence for [[sexy son hypothesis]]. | ||
=== Women are choosy and hypergamous === | === Women are choosy and hypergamous === | ||
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There is a host of evidence that women are much more choosy maters than men. For example, women receive on average 20 times as many matches as men on Tinder, which suggests men are more promiscuous.<ref>Gareth Tyson, Vasile C. Perta, Hamed Haddadi, Michael C. Seto, Queen Mary University of London, Sapienza University of Rome, Royal Ottawa Health Care Group A First Look at User Activity on Tinder</ref> | There is a host of evidence that women are much more choosy maters than men. For example, women receive on average 20 times as many matches as men on Tinder, which suggests men are more promiscuous.<ref>Gareth Tyson, Vasile C. Perta, Hamed Haddadi, Michael C. Seto, Queen Mary University of London, Sapienza University of Rome, Royal Ottawa Health Care Group A First Look at User Activity on Tinder</ref> | ||
The top 10% of men get 58% of women's likes in online dating,<ref>https://hingeirl.com/hinge-reports/whats-the-biggest-challenge-men-face-on-dating-apps-a-qa-with-aviv-goldgeier-junior-growth-engineer</ref><ref>ttps://qz.com/1051462/these-statistics-show-why-its-so-hard-to-be-an-average-man-on-dating-apps/</ref> | The top 10% of men get 58% of women's likes in online dating,<ref>https://hingeirl.com/hinge-reports/whats-the-biggest-challenge-men-face-on-dating-apps-a-qa-with-aviv-goldgeier-junior-growth-engineer</ref><ref>ttps://qz.com/1051462/these-statistics-show-why-its-so-hard-to-be-an-average-man-on-dating-apps/</ref> | ||
and even in online dating platforms with an even sex ratio, like OkCupid one finds women receive around 8 times as many messages. But lots of evidence can also be found elsewhere, for example men would much more readily agree to unsolicited invitations to sex<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Men_like_61.9.25_of_female_profiles.2C_women_like_only_4.5.25_of_male_profiles</ref> and they less likely regret casual sex.<ref>http://doi.org/10.1177/1474704916682903</ref> | and even in online dating platforms with an even sex ratio, like OkCupid one finds women receive around 8 times as many messages.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Hypergamy</ref> But lots of evidence can also be found elsewhere, for example men would much more readily agree to unsolicited invitations to sex<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Men_like_61.9.25_of_female_profiles.2C_women_like_only_4.5.25_of_male_profiles</ref> and they less likely regret casual sex.<ref>http://doi.org/10.1177/1474704916682903</ref> | ||
There are also very large sex differences in sexual disgust.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_feel_sexual_disgust_when_they_imagine_even_talking_to_an_unattractive_man</ref> Women are more coy (reluctant to have sex) across the globe and flirting universally consists of the man impressing the woman.<ref>https://books.google.com/books/about/Human_Ethology.html?id=WADsngEACAAJ</ref><ref>http://doi.org/10.1080/00224490903402520</ref> Women are thought to have reproduced twice as reliably as men throughout history, possibly largely due to their greater choosiness or, equivalently, men's greater promiscuity.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Before_.27enforced_monogamy.27.2C_women.27s_effective_population_size_was_up_to_17x_larger_than_men.27s</ref> | There are also very large sex differences in sexual disgust.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_feel_sexual_disgust_when_they_imagine_even_talking_to_an_unattractive_man</ref> Women are more coy (reluctant to have sex) across the globe and flirting universally consists of the man impressing the woman.<ref>https://books.google.com/books/about/Human_Ethology.html?id=WADsngEACAAJ</ref><ref>http://doi.org/10.1080/00224490903402520</ref> | ||
Men are more choosy about looks for long-term relationships than for short-term relationships, but women are even choosier in long-term relationships because they are about looks and men's ability to provide. | |||
Women are thought to have reproduced twice as reliably as men throughout history, possibly largely due to their greater choosiness or, equivalently, men's greater promiscuity.<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Before_.27enforced_monogamy.27.2C_women.27s_effective_population_size_was_up_to_17x_larger_than_men.27s</ref> | |||
Women's [[hypergamy]] is their tendency or preference to ''date up'' and it is a particular form of their choosiness. Namely, a woman tends to not only want a good partner, but one who is better than herself or better than other available partners or her current partner. | Women's [[hypergamy]] is their tendency or preference to ''date up'' and it is a particular form of their choosiness. Namely, a woman tends to not only want a good partner, but one who is better than herself or better than other available partners or her current partner. | ||
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Women with higher income tend to have preference for a man with even higher income, while men have no such preferences.<ref>https://doi.org/10.1146/annurev-psych-010418-103408</ref> | Women with higher income tend to have preference for a man with even higher income, while men have no such preferences.<ref>https://doi.org/10.1146/annurev-psych-010418-103408</ref> | ||
Women are also prone to instability when they are more attractive than their male partner.<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S019188691500505X</ref> | Women are also prone to instability when they are more attractive than their male partner.<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S019188691500505X</ref> | ||
What is more, there is evidence of women refusing to date down in educational status or marry men with lower income than their own, and preferring to remain single when they cannot | What is more, there is evidence of women refusing to date down in educational status or marry men with lower income than their own, and preferring to remain single when they cannot date up or across the social hierarchy.<ref>https://www.edge.org/response-detail/26747</ref><ref>https://doi.org/10.1093/qje/qjv001</ref><ref>https://fee.org/articles/why-single-women-are-way-more-likely-to-own-a-home-than-single-men/</ref><ref>https://newsroom.wiley.com/press-release/journal-marriage-and-family/do-unmarried-women-face-shortages-partners-us-marriage-mar</ref> | ||
This means that as women surpass more men in socioeconomic status, more men are becoming sexually unattractive with regards to women's hypergamous preferences. | This means that as women surpass more men in socioeconomic status, more men are becoming sexually unattractive with regards to women's hypergamous preferences. | ||
Since women are constantly anxious about not having the best man available, they get bored with relationships and sex sooner,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_rapidly_lose_interest_in_sex_once_in_a_stable_relationship_or_living_with_a_man</ref> | Since women are constantly anxious about not having the best man available, they get bored with relationships and sex sooner,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_rapidly_lose_interest_in_sex_once_in_a_stable_relationship_or_living_with_a_man</ref> | ||
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Women's sexual market value is, on the other hand, rather determined by their looks and their reputation of chastity and faithfulness.<ref>https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jesp.2018.03.011</ref> | Women's sexual market value is, on the other hand, rather determined by their looks and their reputation of chastity and faithfulness.<ref>https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jesp.2018.03.011</ref> | ||
The economic dynamics in such kind of sexual market are believed to also give rise hypergamy,<ref>https://d-nb.info/997448148/34</ref> | The economic dynamics in such kind of sexual market are believed to also give rise hypergamy,<ref>https://d-nb.info/997448148/34</ref> | ||
and they also motivate different kinds of intrasexual competition for each sex and fundamentally shaped psychological sex differences. | and they also motivate different kinds of intrasexual competition for each sex and fundamentally shaped psychological sex differences.<ref>http://doi.org/10.1002/9781119125563.evpsych113</ref> | ||
There is evidence that hypergamy has intensified in the recent years. Namely, the top 5-20% of men (i.e. "[[Chad|Chads]]") are now having more sex than before the sexual revolution.<ref>Harper CR, Dittus PJ, Leichliter JS, Aral, SO. Changes in the Distribution of Sex Partners in the United States: 2002 to 2011–2013. Sexually Transmitted Diseases: February 2017 - Volume 44 - Issue 2 - p 96–100. doi: 10.1097/OLQ.0000000000000554</ref><ref>https://journals.lww.com/stdjournal/Fulltext/2017/02000/Changes_in_the_Distribution_of_Sex_Partners_in_the.5.aspx</ref> | There is evidence that hypergamy has intensified in the recent years. Namely, the top 5-20% of men (i.e. "[[Chad|Chads]]") are now having more sex than before the sexual revolution.<ref>Harper CR, Dittus PJ, Leichliter JS, Aral, SO. Changes in the Distribution of Sex Partners in the United States: 2002 to 2011–2013. Sexually Transmitted Diseases: February 2017 - Volume 44 - Issue 2 - p 96–100. doi: 10.1097/OLQ.0000000000000554</ref><ref>https://journals.lww.com/stdjournal/Fulltext/2017/02000/Changes_in_the_Distribution_of_Sex_Partners_in_the.5.aspx</ref> | ||
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The more men date down, and the more partners are available e.g. through online dating and social networks, the choosier women become as they can choose from more options leading them to wait for the perceived opportunity for a partner of very high mate value. This results in men dating down even more out of frustration, possibly aggravating the situation and forming a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_feedback_loop positive feedback loop] in male sexual frustration and female choosiness.<ref>https://www.technologyreview.com/s/601909/how-tinder-feedback-loop-forces-men-and-women-into-extreme-strategies/</ref> | The more men date down, and the more partners are available e.g. through online dating and social networks, the choosier women become as they can choose from more options leading them to wait for the perceived opportunity for a partner of very high mate value. This results in men dating down even more out of frustration, possibly aggravating the situation and forming a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_feedback_loop positive feedback loop] in male sexual frustration and female choosiness.<ref>https://www.technologyreview.com/s/601909/how-tinder-feedback-loop-forces-men-and-women-into-extreme-strategies/</ref> | ||
In summary, women's love style is more opportunistic and transactional than men's. Women are loved nearly unconditionally, men are not. Social expectations for men are overall higher, hence [[Femcel|femcels]] are expected to be rarer than male incels and more likely [[Volcel|volcels]]. | In summary, women's love style is more opportunistic and transactional than men's. Women are loved nearly unconditionally, men are not. Social expectations for men are overall higher, hence [[Femcel|femcels]] are expected to be rarer than male incels and more likely [[Volcel|volcels]]. Since women have more dating options available to them, they tend to have much more power over relationships than they like to admit ([[Briffault'slaw]]). | ||
There exists a strong ''women-are-wonderful'' bias in that women are perceived more favorably than men in all kinds of regards which also suggests men are overall held to higher standards.<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1111/j.1471-6402.1991.tb00792.x</ref> | There exists a strong ''women-are-wonderful'' bias in that women are perceived more favorably than men in all kinds of regards which also suggests men are overall held to higher standards.<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1111/j.1471-6402.1991.tb00792.x</ref> | ||
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Women also place much greater importance on themselves as a group than men do.<ref>https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2F0022-3514.87.4.494</ref> | Women also place much greater importance on themselves as a group than men do.<ref>https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2F0022-3514.87.4.494</ref> | ||
Just like children, women want to be treated special, e.g. even feminist women prefer men who take care of them.<ref>http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0146167218781000</ref> | Just like children, women want to be treated special, e.g. even feminist women prefer men who take care of them.<ref>http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0146167218781000</ref> | ||
Women's self-sexualization | Women's self-sexualization, high beauty standards (sometimes leading to eating disorder) and historically restricted female sexuality seem to be not a matter of misogynist cultural prescription, but women's own intrasexual competition.<ref>http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2018/08/20/1717959115</ref><ref>https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2018.02122/full</ref> | ||
The fact that seemingly the majority of women fails to recognize, let alone oppose the immense [[gynocentrism|gynocentric]] contradictions and falsehoods in media narratives (e.g. about [[rape|harassment, rape]], the [[gender pay gap]], the [[patriarchy]] and oppression of female sexuality<ref>http://www.femininebeauty.info/suppression.pdf</ref>), is indicative of a childish [[solipsism]] and lack of self-awareness. | The fact that seemingly the majority of women fails to recognize, let alone oppose the immense [[gynocentrism|gynocentric]] contradictions and falsehoods in media narratives (e.g. about [[rape|harassment, rape]], the [[gender pay gap]], the [[patriarchy]] and oppression of female sexuality<ref>http://www.femininebeauty.info/suppression.pdf</ref>), is indicative of a childish [[solipsism]] and lack of self-awareness. | ||
=== Sexlessness and loneliness are harmful === | === Sexlessness and loneliness are harmful === | ||
As summarized in the [[Scientific_Blackpill#Health|Scientific Blackpill]] article, sex and relationships possibly have a number of positive effects on health. Especially loneliness seems to be detrimental to health and sex is also regarded as the most pleasurable activity of all. In one report | As summarized in the [[Scientific_Blackpill#Health|Scientific Blackpill]] article, sex and relationships possibly have a number of positive effects on health. Especially loneliness seems to be detrimental to health and sex is also regarded as the most pleasurable activity of all. In one report loneliness was estimated to be as lethal as smoking 15 cigarettes per day. Both excessive smokers and lonely people are 50% more likely to die prematurely than those with healthy social relationships and non-smokers respectively. Sexlessness negatively affects both men and women.<ref>Scientific_Blackpill#Mating_performance_is_significantly_related_to_happiness_and_life_satisfaction</ref> It is also suspected that the overall happiness of a country affects productivity and the economy.<ref>http://doi.org/10.1007/s10902-019-00074-1</ref><ref>https://www.economist.com/business/2019/07/28/employee-happiness-and-business-success-are-linked</ref> In fact, a Chinese company employed women to cheer up their male workers to great effect.<ref>https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/24/business/china-women-technology.html</ref> | ||
Populations with more unmarried men due to polygamy have greater violent conflict potential.<ref>https://doi.org/10.1177/0022002719859636</ref><ref>http://doi.org/10.1098/rstb.2011.0290</ref> There is evidence that being in a relationship increases men's social status in particular among women who find such men substantially more appealing than single men.<ref>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40750-018-0099-y</ref> | Populations with more unmarried men due to polygamy have greater violent conflict potential.<ref>https://doi.org/10.1177/0022002719859636</ref><ref>http://doi.org/10.1098/rstb.2011.0290</ref> There is evidence that being in a relationship increases men's social status in particular among women who find such men substantially more appealing than single men.<ref>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40750-018-0099-y</ref> | ||
Sexlessness and loneliness are thought to have many different causes, some of economic and some of cultural nature. As local economies and businesses decline, the world | Sexlessness and loneliness are thought to have many different causes, some of economic and some of cultural nature. As local economies and businesses decline, the world grows together and economic growth vanishes, and social networks allow for social comparison with more people, people become narcissistic and highly competitive for the increasingly fewer high status positions. The result is low birth rate, coddled children who are prepared for late marriage, and women saving themselves up for the ideal mate etc. At the same time, a decline of tradition and gender roles largely driven by a push towards higher female workforce participation, as well as future pessimism and hypergamy are thought to accelerate the trend. | ||
=== The dual mating strategy === | === The dual mating strategy === | ||
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Dual-mating refers to a hypothesis that women have an innate mating strategy that involves two mates: A primary partner as [[long-term relationship|long-term]] support (a beta [[cuckold]]), and secondary sex partner of higher mate quality in order to get "good genes" for the offspring (an [[Chad|alpha male]]) by cheating on or [[cuck|cuckolding]] their primary partner.<ref>http://pillse.bol.ucla.edu/Publications/Pillsworth&Haselton_ARSR.pdf</ref> | Dual-mating refers to a hypothesis that women have an innate mating strategy that involves two mates: A primary partner as [[long-term relationship|long-term]] support (a beta [[cuckold]]), and secondary sex partner of higher mate quality in order to get "good genes" for the offspring (an [[Chad|alpha male]]) by cheating on or [[cuck|cuckolding]] their primary partner.<ref>http://pillse.bol.ucla.edu/Publications/Pillsworth&Haselton_ARSR.pdf</ref> | ||
In recent times, this hypothesis was used to explain the rise of female infidelity,<ref>http://www.fincham.info/papers/2017-infidelity.pdf</ref> | In recent times, this hypothesis was used to explain the rise of female infidelity,<ref>http://www.fincham.info/papers/2017-infidelity.pdf</ref> | ||
as well as seemingly higher rates of [[cuck|cuckoldry]] and also seemingly increasing rates of beta men providing for single mothers in their 30s or 40s [[pumped and dumped|after]] they had obtained a child from a more desirable male, which was dubbed [[alpha fucks, beta bucks]] (AF/BB), in the manosphere. | as well as seemingly higher rates of [[cuck|cuckoldry]] and also seemingly increasing rates of beta men providing for single mothers in their 30s or 40s [[pumped and dumped|after]] they had obtained a child from a more desirable male, which was dubbed [[betabux|alpha fucks, beta bucks]] (AF/BB), in the manosphere. | ||
More recently, however, the dual-mating strategy fell in disfavor in the scientific community for a number of reasons. One reason is that non-paternity rates are globally very low, even though contraceptives and relaxed marital norms should make AF/BB occur much more often if it was natural.<ref>https://labs.la.utexas.edu/buss/files/2013/02/The-Mate-Switching-Hypothesis-FINAL-PUBLISHED-2017.pdf (see Section 6)</ref> | More recently, however, the dual-mating strategy fell in disfavor in the scientific community for a number of reasons. One reason is that non-paternity rates are globally very low, even though contraceptives and relaxed marital norms should make AF/BB occur much more often if it was natural.<ref>https://labs.la.utexas.edu/buss/files/2013/02/The-Mate-Switching-Hypothesis-FINAL-PUBLISHED-2017.pdf (see Section 6)</ref> | ||
E.g. only 3% of all children in the U.S. live with a step father.<ref>https://ifstudies.org/blog/more-than-60-of-u-s-kids-live-with-two-biological-parents/</ref> | E.g. only 3% of all children in the U.S. live with a step father.<ref>https://ifstudies.org/blog/more-than-60-of-u-s-kids-live-with-two-biological-parents/</ref> | ||
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To such women, engaging with a virgin man is thought to be boring and alien, because women are believed to be socially, romantically and sexually much more mature. | To such women, engaging with a virgin man is thought to be boring and alien, because women are believed to be socially, romantically and sexually much more mature. | ||
Men who fail to acquire such skills before their mid or late 20s are believed to be incapable of doing so later on, and are hence deprived of basic decency. | Men who fail to acquire such skills before their mid or late 20s are believed to be incapable of doing so later on, and are hence deprived of basic decency. | ||
Men who do manage to attract a partner that late, for example by a good income, are believed to only get access to used up [[roastie|leftover women]] too old and sexually experienced to be sexually attractive. Contact to women is seen to be reduced to situations in which looks are the main thing that matters (e.g. bars and online dating) especially for the many socially isolated millennials, | Men who do manage to attract a partner that late, for example by a good income, are believed to only get access to used up [[roastie|leftover women]] too old and sexually experienced to be sexually attractive. Contact to women is seen to be reduced to situations in which looks are the main thing that matters (e.g. bars and online dating) especially for the many socially isolated millennials, aggravated by the fact that women more often have their own high incomes, so men cannot improve their SMV by income as much as in the past, and are hence more reduced to their physical appearance. | ||
The more unattractive man, the longer longer courtship is required to convince a woman (on the other of months), so brief dating opportunites where only looks matter, pose huge disadvantages to such males. | |||
This is further aggrevated by increasingly harsh social rules concerning flirting and harassment. | |||
Another frequent theme is that psychotherapy and counseling are useless and give poor advice. It is claimed they merely parrot bluepilled notions about being nice and taking a [[shower]], and are ultimately a waste of time and money. | Another frequent theme is that psychotherapy and counseling are useless and give poor advice. It is claimed they merely parrot bluepilled notions about being nice and taking a [[shower]], and are ultimately a waste of time and money. | ||
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Believers in the blackpill have a wide variety of opinions about what needs or can be changed to solve the systemic issues outlined above, from pessimistic nihilism/fatalism to traditionalist beliefs such as returning to the nuclear family or stoicism. Some argue only changing human nature itself can help, which would either require genetic engineering, thousands of years of evolution or selective breeding. Some social darwinist blackpillers promote fatalism and advocate [[incelicide]]. | Believers in the blackpill have a wide variety of opinions about what needs or can be changed to solve the systemic issues outlined above, from pessimistic nihilism/fatalism to traditionalist beliefs such as returning to the nuclear family or stoicism. Some argue only changing human nature itself can help, which would either require genetic engineering, thousands of years of evolution or selective breeding. Some social darwinist blackpillers promote fatalism and advocate [[incelicide]]. | ||
Not all blackpillers are fatalistic, but many conclude a deep pessimism and fatalism,<ref>https://incels.co/threads/glassespill-its-over-for-glasscels-do-not-enter-if-vision-is-not-20-20.136257/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/its-over-for-boliviancels.136006/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/classic-movie-scene-this-is-whats-gonna-happen-if-you-ask-a-girl-out.144537/#post-3026437</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/redpillers-acting-like-jerks-all-the-time.142864/#post-2991514</ref>< | Not all blackpillers are fatalistic, but many conclude a deep pessimism and fatalism,<ref>https://incels.co/threads/glassespill-its-over-for-glasscels-do-not-enter-if-vision-is-not-20-20.136257/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/its-over-for-boliviancels.136006/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/classic-movie-scene-this-is-whats-gonna-happen-if-you-ask-a-girl-out.144537/#post-3026437</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/redpillers-acting-like-jerks-all-the-time.142864/#post-2991514</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/nobody-will-ever-love-you.144830/</ref> | ||
others have what they see as a more optimistic outlook and promote atheistic monogamy<ref>https://incels.co/threads/me-52m-just-found-out-at-least-4-of-my-5-children-33f-30f-28m-24f-14f-are-not-mine-wife-51f-wont-say-anything.115218/page-3#post-2959506</ | others have what they see as a more optimistic outlook and promote atheistic monogamy<ref>https://incels.co/threads/me-52m-just-found-out-at-least-4-of-my-5-children-33f-30f-28m-24f-14f-are-not-mine-wife-51f-wont-say-anything.115218/page-3#post-2959506</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/germany-1950-was-an-incel-wet-dream.147144/#post-3085283</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/for-normies-inceltears-modern-day-expressions-of-female-sexuality-are-cringe-just-posturing-trying-to-emulate-male-sexuality-penis-envy.145710/#post-3061135</ref> | ||
or are driven by [[Tradcon|traditional conservatism]].<ref>https://incels.co/threads/if-men-cant-be-protectors-providers-theyll-be-destroyers-deprivers.140942/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/being-anti-religion-is-not-only-contradictory-but-also-completely-anti-incels.146724</ref> Expecting a return to more traditional sex roles and emphasis on marriage and monogamy which may not be a solution for everyone, but could at least improve the situation greatly for most people. There is disagreement over whether or not this would require a widespread return to the prioritization of religious values to implement. | or are driven by [[Tradcon|traditional conservatism]].<ref>https://incels.co/threads/if-men-cant-be-protectors-providers-theyll-be-destroyers-deprivers.140942/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/being-anti-religion-is-not-only-contradictory-but-also-completely-anti-incels.146724</ref> Expecting a return to more traditional sex roles and emphasis on marriage and monogamy which may not be a solution for everyone, but could at least improve the situation greatly for most people. There is disagreement over whether or not this would require a widespread return to the prioritization of religious values to implement. | ||