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The pick up artist scene (now mostly found on [[The Red Pill|/r/TRP]]) has always been at odds with most incel communities. One site that had a lot of incels: [[PSL|PUAhate.com]] was almost exclusively dedicated to hating on pick up artists. Similarly [[r/TRP]] hates on incels. The difference is in philosophy. | The pick up artist scene (now mostly found on [[The Red Pill|/r/TRP]]) has always been at odds with most incel communities. One site that had a lot of incels: [[PSL|PUAhate.com]] was almost exclusively dedicated to hating on pick up artists. Similarly [[r/TRP]] hates on incels. The difference is in philosophy. | ||
PUAs (and [[feminists]]) think men pick up women through [[social skills]] | PUAs (and [[feminists]]) think men pick up women through [[social skills]] almost exclusively. | ||
Incels instead (and others) advocate [[LMS]] (looks, money, status) theory, but don't guarantee success, only increasing the odds that a woman will pick you when you approach her. Incels and others say that for men that have normal [[social skills]] (most men), 'game' is a scam, and the only way to improve in the [[eyes]] of women sexually is through improving one's looks, money, or status. | Incels instead (and others) advocate [[LMS]] (looks, money, status) theory, but don't guarantee success, only increasing the odds that a woman will pick you when you approach her. Incels and others say that for men that have normal [[social skills]] (most men), 'game' is a scam, and the only way to improve in the [[eyes]] of women sexually is through improving one's looks, money, or status. | ||