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Would Zesto be considered an incel?[edit source]

Or, because he used to hang out on Looksmax talking about how he was going to ascend in Japan, does this mean he's not an incel? In this kind of situation, do we take the person at his word and say, "Well, he bragged his ability to ascend, so that means he's noncel"? 2601:5CD:C200:9BE0:51C8:7E6F:A7A9:6220 12:12, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

Depends on which faction of the incel community. A hardcore incel forum who's members have no hope to get women will see him as noncel, but a looxmax forum focused on ascension, will still see him as "one of them" even after getting laid.

Mikey (talk) 17:08, 13 December 2019 (UTC)