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Someone put more citations in the first few sentences of this lede and chop it down a bit. Its poorly sourced, hard to read, and intimidating William (talk) 14:44, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

80/20[edit source]

IRL relationships, while increasingly unequal, do not follow a pareto distribution and there's nothing you source that suggests so. 80/20 refers to online dating and even then it's not consistently 80/20. Peterson lectures do not count as reliable sources for this sort of tihng. William (talk)

Academic section[edit source]

Bibipi, you put two main sources in there and I feel your writing did not accurately use those sources. You insinuated they both said men's natural desire to provide for women creates hypergamy. Which neither of them say, and the second one had hardly anything to say about natural sexuality at all. Regardless of how much it is true (which of course there is truth to that) one source spoke of men's desire to provide as primarily a market dynamic. The dynamic of women being sexual selectors, withholding sex, and demanding favors of men (rather than men being too naturally sexually greedy and pushing favors onto women in some original sin bullshit religious line-of-thinking). Men also have a natural desire to have sex without "working-the-land" or otherwise bribing women as well, don't see much reason to missread sources to overemphasis how much men naturally want to work for women. Also as an anecdote, most self-identified incels appear to not want to work for women, see this thread William (talk) 22:22, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Locked[edit source]

Until people learn how to use talk pages before completely rewriting a backbone of the entire wiki in tradcon-littered nonsense without consulting a talk page.

The 80/20 section will be rewritten back to what it was before. The new version offers nothing but unsourced Peterson and "matthew effect" pseudo-religious nonsense. William (talk) 22:44, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Too many memes?[edit source]

The page seems very cluttered with all sorts of memes that are only vaguely related (e.g. spongebob, cockcarusel, wojak, tlc). I was thinking about getting feedback on the forum. Thoughts? Bibipi (talk) 18:16, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

We didn't give everyone on the forum an account automatically for a reason. It is not associated with besides an admin and some backend stuff. We would like to keep as many good/funny fair use pics/videos on as many pages as possible, for entertainment reasons.William (talk) 20:07, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Center tags on Youtube breaks mobile unfortunately[edit source]

I don't know why and probably only something fixeable server side. I assume this applies to any formatting around youtube tags. Youtube is generally wonky on mobile, but at least without any formatting tags, it sort of displays.William (talk) 20:07, 16 November 2019 (UTC)