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Notability?[edit source]

Not sure if this should be here. Was added by an anon IP. Wiki has policy of only new pages for people with notability outside forums, and then to move other people into their respective forum pages. This could be moved into parthenophilia or francels maybe. William (talk) 14:15, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

In the coming months, we'll probably be finding out how much of an influence, if any, his involvement in incelosphere- or incelosphere-adjacent forums ends up having on his sentence, as the judge may decide it has relevance to the factors listed in 18 U.S. Code § 3553. That would be a notable development in terms of the chilling effect it could have on free speech on said forums, if people thought that their involvement in such forums could result in their getting penalized by the legal system, e.g. by, as may happen in this case, getting sentenced to a longer prison term, or more stringent supervised release conditions, or whatnot.
On the other hand, if the court doesn't take that stuff into account in making its decision, that will arguably be a victory for free speech, so it's a noteworthy case either way. It's going to send a message one way or the other to the FBI and similar federal agencies about whether they should be including this type of content in their complaints when they're trying to get judges to take certain kinds of actions, and therefore it may also affect their investigative practices, which could impact the incelosphere. We've seen already how incel forums have had to adjust their moderation policies and practices due to being harassed by subpoenas issued by federal agencies, and the outcome of cases like this could serve to encourage or discourage that sort of practice.
The question this kind of case poses is, "Should merely reading or participating in a forum be considered evidence of one's propensity to commit crimes, and if so, what are the implications of that for freedom of speech, freedom of association, etc. in the incelosphere?"
Anyway, perhaps it could be merged into a prisonercel article, which could later be expanded if there end up being others. 2601:5CD:C200:9BE0:5087:7F81:4DCF:3C67 14:45, 16 March 2020 (UTC)