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'''True Forced Loneliness'''<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20090910173207/http://trueforcedloneliness.com/about/</ref> (2008'ish), known as TFL, was started and promoted by the three youtubers: [[William Greathouse]] (bill1224601), [[Dwayne Holloway]] (chisma), and [[Steve Hoca]] as a singular vlogging group with a website describing their philosophy[https://web.archive.org/web/20090910173207/http://trueforcedloneliness.com/about/]. Around 2008, three years after Youtube began, they began to make youtube videos. All three original TFLers eventually split ways, and still make videos today with the exception of [[Dwayne Holloway]] who started a campaign against [[William Greathouse]] before he left Youtube. Over 16 Youtube vloggers have self-identified and built a channel around the TFL label since 2008. | |||
Looking back, as a whole TFL is best thought of as the beginning of vlogging on Youtube in the [[English incelosphere]]. It centered around [[Steve Hoca|Steve Hoca's]] friends/fans and later [[Kent]]'s friends/fans, and their vlogging style. Most modern TFL vloggers can be categorized as either an incelibate or MGTOW vlogger in addition to being a TFL vlogger. The only differences between TFL and [[incelibate]] communties are that TFLers tend to be mostly unaware of the incelosphere, lean toward a [[MGTOW]] perspective and vlogging style more often than incels, use poorer recording techniques and advertizement, and are mostly non-white, with self-identified incelibate vloggers being about half non-white instead. | |||
==Modern TFL== | |||
TFLers that existed past the original formation of TFL include | |||
*[[Baraka Tivo]] ?-? (retired, then committed suicide) | |||
*[[Blaze1]], also known as Infinite1, active 2013-2015 (retired) | |||
*[[Oreo Man]], also known as SavvyGuy, active 2008-2017 (retired) | |||
*[[JamiltheKing]], active 2013-2018 (retired) | |||
*[[Kent]], also known as KentTV, active 2013-2018 (retired) | |||
*[[HeedandSucceed]], active 2014-2018('''active''') | |||
*[[Samuel Maxwell]], active 2015-2018('''active''') | |||
*[[William Greathouse]], active 2008-2018('''active''') | |||
*[[Steve Hoca]] 2008-2018('''semi-active''') | |||
*[[LFA]] 2018-2018('''active''') | |||
*[[Kickspassion]] ?-2018('''active''') | |||
*[[Hell by the Dashboard Light]] ?-2018('''active''') | |||
*[[BigBossCalvin83]] ?-2018('''active''') | |||
*[[Red Pill Rage|Red Pill Rage]] 2017-2018('''active''') | |||
*[[Tahlia]] 2018-now('''active''') | |||
==Original TFL== | |||
Here are two channels that host re-uploads of original TFL videos, which are hard to find as pretty much all the original channels were taken down by youtube or the channel creators: | |||
1) Steve Dougson<ref>https://www.youtube.com/user/SteveDougson/videos</ref> from May 2008 | |||
2) Keith34545<ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5FUyvHIhD2bIAvJbgbCb9Q/videos</ref> from May 2008 | |||
Back in 2008, TFL was a relatively anti-feminist. It only consisted of these three and was very often mocked – especially by forums, like Sherdog Off Topic forums (usually referred to OT).<ref>http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/l-o-l-fess-up-how-many-of-you-suffer-from-true-forced-loneliness.776808/</ref> The TFLers generally blamed society instead of the individual for their dating predicaments. | |||
==More Archives== | |||
[[Hawks NestArchive]] and [[You wouldn't like me when I get gutta]] have the most archived/mirrored TFL videos on Youtube. | |||
==Philosophy== | |||
TFL is the early version of what would become the anti-feminist version of Incel. No ideas on Incels.me are new – only the wording is new. Bill tended to be the more conspiracy theorist-related one. Dwayne tended to be the more "[[nice guy]]"-related one. Steve tended to dislike [[feminism|how women have more sexual choice than men]]. To combine the trio, you would get the victim-complex from Bill, the humanism of Dwayne, and the anti-feminism of Steve. | |||
==Sodini== | |||
Other themes of TFL included sympathizing with [[George Sodini]], who was the 2009 Collier Township shooter<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Collier_Township_shooting</ref> | |||
In one video<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahtr1qBTp1Q</ref> at the 24 second mark, Bill said this: "there was no fucking excuse for [[George Sodini]] to have to spend his life alone." As with some posts at alt.support.shyness, there were some who sympathized with killers on youtube. Unfortunately, now, this has turned into praising of killers by some users on less moderated incel sites. | |||
==Site== | |||
True Forced Loneliness Website Archive: [https://web.archive.org/web/20090910173207/http://trueforcedloneliness.com/about/] | |||
==See Also== | |||
*[[Hell by the Dashboard Light]] | |||
*[[MGTOW]] | |||
*[[Manosphere]] | |||
*[[Alex Ansary]] | |||
==References== | |||
[[category:TFLism]] | |||