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Redpillers and blackpillers share some core beliefs, most notably the belief in inherent female [[hypergamy]] (defined as their desire to 'date up') and a generally cynical view of human and especially female nature that sees most social relationships as essentially being transactional in nature. | Redpillers and blackpillers share some core beliefs, most notably the belief in inherent female [[hypergamy]] (defined as their desire to 'date up') and a generally cynical view of human and especially female nature that sees most social relationships as essentially being transactional in nature. | ||
They differ in several important ways, however, mostly because redpillers believe men can [[Work on Yourself|improve]] their dating situation through various [[PUA|social manipulation]] tricks and self-improvement strategies such as [[bodybuilding]]. As such, | They differ in several important ways, however, mostly because redpillers believe men can [[Work on Yourself|improve]] their dating situation through various [[PUA|social manipulation]] tricks and self-improvement strategies such as [[bodybuilding]]. As such, redpillers advise that men adopt an internal {{W|locus of control}}, or self-responsibility for one's dating success. However, some blackpillers do advise forms of self-improvement such as [[looksmaxxing]], so this distinction is not always as severe as it seems on the surface. | ||
The main difference here may be that blackpillers generally don't blame incels actions and attitudes for their lack of sexual success, whereas redpillers are often aggressively [[neoliberal]] in the sense of promoting 'bootstraps' and tough-love rhetoric to disadvantaged men. Redpillers typically seek to portray the blackpill as a 'loser mentality' that will repulse women, while blackpillers often see or portray redpillers as self-aggrandizing failures who exaggerate their sexual success for grifting purposes. It is commonly argued by proponents of the blackpill that redpiller's frequent hostility towards the blackpill is often motivated by self-interest, as if the 'blackpilled truth' of the dating market is known to men there won't be any market for PUA-type courses based on ideas that dating is 'hackable' via redpill type methods. Some prominent redpillers, such as [[Rollo Tomassi]], however, do recognize the similarities between the two 'pills' and see blackpillers as simply representing defeatist redpillers. Despite this tension, there seems to be an increasing trend towards convergence of the two circles, with redpillers often adopting blackpill terminology and arguments.<ref>https://twitter.com/rationalmale/status/1549766485836447748</ref><ref>https://looksmax.org/threads/godfather-of-the-redpill-rollo-tomassi-turns-blackpill-live-on-youtube-ethnics-do-not-enter-brutal-statistics.396585/</ref> | The main difference here may be that blackpillers generally don't blame incels actions and attitudes for their lack of sexual success, whereas redpillers are often aggressively [[neoliberal]] in the sense of promoting 'bootstraps' and tough-love rhetoric to disadvantaged men. Redpillers typically seek to portray the blackpill as a 'loser mentality' that will repulse women, while blackpillers often see or portray redpillers as self-aggrandizing failures who exaggerate their sexual success for grifting purposes. It is commonly argued by proponents of the blackpill that redpiller's frequent hostility towards the blackpill is often motivated by self-interest, as if the 'blackpilled truth' of the dating market is known to men there won't be any market for PUA-type courses based on ideas that dating is 'hackable' via redpill type methods. Some prominent redpillers, such as [[Rollo Tomassi]], however, do recognize the similarities between the two 'pills' and see blackpillers as simply representing defeatist redpillers. Despite this tension, there seems to be an increasing trend towards convergence of the two circles, with redpillers often adopting blackpill terminology and arguments.<ref>https://twitter.com/rationalmale/status/1549766485836447748</ref><ref>https://looksmax.org/threads/godfather-of-the-redpill-rollo-tomassi-turns-blackpill-live-on-youtube-ethnics-do-not-enter-brutal-statistics.396585/</ref> | ||