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The '''heightpill''' (a subset of the [[blackpill]]) is the realization that [[females]] prefer [[men]] who are much taller than average, that a man's height is a hard limit to his attractiveness, and that females feel visceral disgust toward [[manlet]]s.  
The '''heightpill''' (a subset of the [[blackpill]]) is the realization that [[females]] prefer [[men]] who are much taller than average, that a man's height is a hard limit to his attractiveness, and that females feel visceral disgust toward [[manlet]]s.  
==Intro==
==Intro==
[[File:Teehee.png|thumb|right]]
[[File:Teehee.png|thumb|right]]
Originating from the biological needs of [[femoid]]s, it concludes that [[manlet]]s (men who rank in the bottom half in terms of height) are heavily disadvantaged in [[dating]] unless they have a Chad face or have high status. This is because women are [[sexual gatekeeper]]s and their near universal natural preference for tall men means that [[dating]] down in [[height]] is nearly impossible for men in a society that encourages natural female sexuality. For the depraved female species, the [[manlet]] cutoff might as well be under 6 foot even, thanks to [[hypergamy]].
Originating from the biological needs of [[femoid]]s, it concludes that [[manlet]]s (men who rank in the bottom half in terms of height) are heavily disadvantaged in [[dating]] unless they have a Chad face or have high status. This is because women are [[sexual gatekeeper]]s and their near universal natural preference for tall men means that [[dating]] down in [[height]] is nearly impossible for men in a society that encourages natural female sexuality. For the depraved female species, the [[manlet]] cutoff might as well be under 6 foot even, thanks to [[hypergamy]].
==Origins==
==Origins==
[[Social constructionism|Social constructionists]] like to explain heightism by norms, namely by the malle-taller-norm. However, an evolutionary explanation would be that the taller male will on average be stronger and better able to ward off physical threats ([[bodyguard hypothesis]]).<ref>https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/fulfillment-any-age/201306/why-women-want-tall-men</ref> However, women also adhere to a ''male-not-too-tall'' norm,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#A_man.27s_height_determines_his_dating_pool._Over_94.25_of_women_reject_men_for_being_.22too_short.22</ref> possibly because large age differences being frowned upon in Western culture, possibly due to female [[rape#Rape_hysteria|rape hysteria]] and egalitarian ideals, or because it is just out of the ordinary and people generally prefer to blend in.
[[Social constructionism|Social constructionists]] like to explain heightism by norms, namely by the malle-taller-norm. However, an evolutionary explanation would be that the taller male will on average be stronger and better able to ward off physical threats ([[bodyguard hypothesis]]).<ref>https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/fulfillment-any-age/201306/why-women-want-tall-men</ref> However, women also adhere to a ''male-not-too-tall'' norm,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#A_man.27s_height_determines_his_dating_pool._Over_94.25_of_women_reject_men_for_being_.22too_short.22</ref> possibly because large age differences being frowned upon in Western culture, possibly due to female [[rape#Rape_hysteria|rape hysteria]] and egalitarian ideals, or because it is just out of the ordinary and people generally prefer to blend in.
==The Pedo-Manlet Hypothesis==
A small sample study<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17952597</ref>noted that the division between Pedophiles and non-pedos is of a height of 5 foot and 9.5 inches (with 95% confidence). A larger scale study<ref>https://doi.org/10.1080/01639625.2016.1254986</ref> deduced that pedophiles are a quarter inch shorter than regular offenders. It can be hypothesized that shorter people are more likely to be disposed to pedophilic phenotypes. However, this has not take to account [[Life history|Life History]], masculinity and other biofactors (see also "masculinized" digit ratio in study<ref>https://www.nature.com/articles/s41398-018-0326-0</ref>).


==Tallfaggot advantage in online dating==
== Tallfaggot advantage in online dating ==
Stating your [[height]] in an online [[dating]] profile could fuck you over badly if you’re a [[manlet]]. According to a particular [[dating]] app, firstmet, the ideal [[height]] related to most matches in males was 6’2” (188 cm).
Stating your [[height]] in an online [[dating]] profile could fuck you over badly if you’re a [[manlet]]. According to a particular [[dating]] app, firstmet, the ideal [[height]] related to most matches in males was 6’2” (188 cm).
Specifically, they said:
Specifically, they said:
<blockquote>A man who is 6’2″ is 17% more likely to be contacted than a man of average [[height]] of 5’8″ (173 cm) and 57% more likely to be contacted than a man under 5’5” (165 cm).<ref>https://www.firstmet.com/dating-blog/online-dating-size-matters-male-height/</ref></blockquote>
<blockquote>A man who is 6’2″ is 17% more likely to be contacted than a man of average [[height]] of 5’8″ (173 cm) and 57% more likely to be contacted than a man under 5’5” (165 cm).<ref>https://www.firstmet.com/dating-blog/online-dating-size-matters-male-height/</ref></blockquote>
==If you are under 5'6", you are exponentially less attractive than average men==
==If you are under 5'6", you are exponentially less attractive than average men==
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In a study on humans published in Animal Studies, it was shown that men who are between 5'3" (160 cm) and 5'6" (168 cm) are anywhere from 3–10 times less attractive than average height men, solely because of their height.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/236670565_The_height_of_choosiness_Mutual_mate_choice_for_stature_results_in_suboptimal_pair_formation_for_both_sexes</ref>
In a study on humans published in Animal Studies, it was shown that men who are between 5'3" (160 cm) and 5'6" (168 cm) are anywhere from 3–10 times less attractive than average height men, solely because of their height.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/236670565_The_height_of_choosiness_Mutual_mate_choice_for_stature_results_in_suboptimal_pair_formation_for_both_sexes</ref>
==Bluepill argument on Heightmatching==
==Bluepill argument on Heightmatching==
The Bluepill argument against the heightpill is that the male-female height difference is platonic at 15cm<ref>https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-common-is-it-for-a-man-to-be-shorter-than-his-partner/</ref> or 6in<ref>https://familyinequality.wordpress.com/2019/11/06/man-woman-couple-height-updated/</ref>. CoffeeMeetsBagel<ref>https://coffeemeetsbagel.com/blog/dating-statistics/how-tall-are-you-really/</ref> reflects this sentiment as well.
The Bluepill argument against the heightpill is that the male-female height difference is platonic at 15cm<ref>https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-common-is-it-for-a-man-to-be-shorter-than-his-partner/</ref> or 6in<ref>https://familyinequality.wordpress.com/2019/11/06/man-woman-couple-height-updated/</ref>. CoffeeMeetsBagel<ref>https://coffeemeetsbagel.com/blog/dating-statistics/how-tall-are-you-really/</ref> reflects this sentiment as well.
==Female reaction to manlets on social media==
==Female reaction to manlets on social media==
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FHO’s don’t even see us as worthy of any respect.
FHO’s don’t even see us as worthy of any respect.
==Manlet disadvantage in dating and even betabuxxing==
==Manlet disadvantage in dating and even betabuxxing==
A [[marriage]] is more likely to be successful if the male partner is tall. Women just feel happier about it.
A [[marriage]] is more likely to be successful if the male partner is tall. Women just feel happier about it.
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If even in not quite hypergamous nations [[manlet|manlets]] are screwed, then imagine the horror they have to face in western nations.
If even in not quite hypergamous nations [[manlet|manlets]] are screwed, then imagine the horror they have to face in western nations.
==Research studies==
==Research studies==
===2012===
===2012===
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TBA
TBA
 
===2013 ===
===2013===
====Gert study====
====Gert study====
16 January 2013 a study by Gert Stulp was published called "Are Human Mating Preferences with Respect to Height Reflected in Actual Pairings?" which can be found at https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0054186
16 January 2013 a study by Gert Stulp was published called "Are Human Mating Preferences with Respect to Height Reflected in Actual Pairings?" which can be found at https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0054186
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The salience of the heightpill probably comes from the [[redpill]] that men do engage in [[mogging|physical intimidation]] of one another in which [[Scientific_Blackpill#Among_male_university_students.2C_only_cues_of_physical_dominance_over_other_men_predicted_their_mating_success|short guys will lose more often]].
The salience of the heightpill probably comes from the [[redpill]] that men do engage in [[mogging|physical intimidation]] of one another in which [[Scientific_Blackpill#Among_male_university_students.2C_only_cues_of_physical_dominance_over_other_men_predicted_their_mating_success|short guys will lose more often]].
===2014===
===2014===
====September study====
==== September study====
"Sexual activity of young men is not related to their anthropometric parameters" abtract can be found at https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24964363/
"Sexual activity of young men is not related to their anthropometric parameters" abtract can be found at https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24964363/


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*"Coital frequency was higher among men with a height of less than 175 cm"
*"Coital frequency was higher among men with a height of less than 175 cm"
*"lesser height (ORcf≥3.5 = 0.951, P = 0.005) was associated with higher activity."
*"lesser height (ORcf≥3.5 = 0.951, P = 0.005) was associated with higher activity."
Access to the entire study (with more data than the abstract, would include info like how people were polled/sample, etc) is a logical requirement before relying on this to make arguments, however access to the full study has not yet been found.
Access to the entire study (with more data than the abstract, would include info like how people were polled/sample, etc) is a logical requirement before relying on this to make arguments, however access to the full study has not yet been found.
===2015===
===2015===
====Dutch case====
====Dutch case====
:7 May 2015 study http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/282/1806/20150211 called "Does natural selection favour taller stature among the tallest people on earth?"
:7 May 2015 study http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/282/1806/20150211 called "Does natural selection favour taller stature among the tallest people on earth?"
[[Normie|Normies]] commonly suggest that Europeans, especially the Dutch, became tall due to external factors such as a great supply of nutrients. As we delve deep into evolutionary psychology, we find out that the main reason as to why Dutch men are tall these days is because short Dutch men barely even reproduced. A study which analyzed the number of kids received by men of different heights in the Netherlands concluded that:  
[[Normie|Normies]] commonly suggest that Europeans, especially the Dutch, became tall due to external factors such as a great supply of nutrients. As we delve deep into evolutionary psychology, we find out that the main reason as to why Dutch men are tall these days is because short Dutch men barely even reproduced. A study which analyzed the number of kids received by men of different heights in the Netherlands concluded that:  


“Our results suggest that... taller men have higher fertility compared with shorter men. It therefore seems plausible to suggest that natural selection may have acted on the Dutch population, and helped drive the Dutch toward taller heights”.
“Our results suggest that... taller men have higher fertility compared with shorter men. It therefore seems plausible to suggest that natural selection may have acted on the Dutch population, and helped drive the Dutch toward taller heights”.
====Brooke Jenkins study====
====Brooke Jenkins study====
:note: her maiden name is Brooke Gentle, she married Nick Jenkins in 2014. They live in California.
:note: her maiden name is Brooke Gentle, she married Nick Jenkins in 2014. They live in California.
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Brooke divided men into five height categories (pg 5) and listed their average partner counts (pg 1)
Brooke divided men into five height categories (pg 5) and listed their average partner counts (pg 1)
#very short (5'2"–5'4"; 157–164 cm; 1%) avg 9.4
# very short (5'2"–5'4"; 157–164 cm; 1%) avg 9.4
#short (5'5"–5'7"; 165–171 cm; 9%) avg 11.0
# short (5'5"–5'7"; 165–171 cm; 9%) avg 11.0
#average (5'8"–5'10"; 172–178 cm; 33%) avg 11.7
#average (5'8"–5'10"; 172–178 cm; 33%) avg 11.7
#tall (5'11"–6'1"; 179–186 cm; 40%) avg 12.0
#tall (5'11"–6'1"; 179–186 cm; 40%) avg 12.0
#very tall (6'2"–6'4"; 187–194 cm; 15%) avg 12.1
#very tall (6'2"–6'4"; 187–194 cm; 15%) avg 12.1
#extremely tall (6'5"+; greater than 194 cm; 2%) avg 12.3
#extremely tall (6'5"+; greater than 194 cm; 2%) avg 12.3
Although the pattern is consistent, the difference is underwhelming to those who consider height to have a larger impact.
Although the pattern is consistent, the difference is underwhelming to those who consider height to have a larger impact.
:[[User:Bibipi]] for example [[Special:diff/46076|was distressed]] about some sort of "d = .22 less than tall people" for the extremely short, although it's unclear how he got that number. He talks about <4'11" yet that was not the parameters of the "very short" in Brooke's study. Men below 5'2" were not even surveyed in it, and 12.0 minus 9.4 is a difference of average partner count of 2.6 not 0.22.
: [[User:Bibipi]] for example [[Special:diff/46076|was distressed]] about some sort of "d = .22 less than tall people" for the extremely short, although it's unclear how he got that number. He talks about <4'11" yet that was not the parameters of the "very short" in Brooke's study. Men below 5'2" were not even surveyed in it, and 12.0 minus 9.4 is a difference of average partner count of 2.6 not 0.22.
 
One interesting thing to notice about the sampling Jenkins did is she highly over-sampled "tall" men (at 40% this is higher than the 33% "average" men) and under-sampled "short" men (only 9%)
One interesting thing to notice about the sampling Jenkins did is she highly over-sampled "tall" men (at 40% this is higher than the 33% "average" men) and under-sampled "short" men (only 9%)


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This is why the curve is not as steep in these results as it would be IRL.
This is why the curve is not as steep in these results as it would be IRL.
==Videos on height and dating==
==Videos on height and dating==
A TV reportage shows the heightpill by interviewing scientists, as well as conducting an experiment, proving that below 5'3 (160 cm), [[it never began]]:
A TV reportage shows the heightpill by interviewing scientists, as well as conducting an experiment, proving that below 5'3 (160 cm), [[it never began]]:
<youtube>ZbG05ePWRQE</youtube>
<youtube>ZbG05ePWRQE</youtube>
<youtube>AlCTRevBhsE</youtube>
<youtube>AlCTRevBhsE</youtube>
==Abbreviations==
==Abbreviations==
If you have this property in your body with these four letters, you are perceived as significantly more romantic '''by your bare presence''', levitate above the crowds, and you do not have to [[acceptance|settle for misery]]:
If you have this property in your body with these four letters, you are perceived as significantly more romantic '''by your bare presence''', levitate above the crowds, and you do not have to [[acceptance|settle for misery]]:
{| class="wikitable" style="font-family:'trebuchet ms'"
{| class="wikitable" style="font-family:'trebuchet ms'"
<td style="font-size:80px;">[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/En-us-tall.ogg t.]</td>
<td style="font-size:80px;">[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/En-us-tall.ogg t.]</td>
<td style="font-size:80px;">[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tall#Pronunciation a.]</td>
<td style="font-size:80px;">[[wikt:tall#Pronunciation|a.]]</td>
<td style="font-size:80px;">l.</td>
<td style="font-size:80px;">l.</td>
<td style="font-size:80px;">l.</td>
<td style="font-size:80px;">l.</td>
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*Example 2: [[Julian Claßen]] (193 cm / 6ft 4in)
*Example 2: [[Julian Claßen]] (193 cm / 6ft 4in)
*Example 3: [[Anthony Robbins]] (201cm / 6ft 7in)
*Example 3: [[Anthony Robbins]] (201cm / 6ft 7in)
===Other possibilities===
===Other possibilities===
*''H.e.i.g.h.t.'':
*''H.e.i.g.h.t.'':
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**hoarder of women
**hoarder of women
**testosterone
**testosterone
==References==
==References==
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==See also==
==See also==
*[[Just be tall]]
*[[Just be tall]]
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