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Might change but this is what I have noticed regarding the rise of homosexuality and bisexuality regarding the talks I have had in anime forums and within anime-incel/bisexual incel communities
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Another related model is the [[trans-vestigiality hypothesis]] which states that incels turn [[homosexuality|gay]] and feminine to evade aggression from larger males, and then steal their mating opportunities as "sneaker males". | Another related model is the [[trans-vestigiality hypothesis]] which states that incels turn [[homosexuality|gay]] and feminine to evade aggression from larger males, and then steal their mating opportunities as "sneaker males". | ||
==Evidence== | ==Evidence== | ||
Evidence for the homocel hypothesis can be found in prison homosexuality (see [[prisoncel]]), where sexually frustrated men engage in homosexual acts to fulfill their sexual needs. The more dominant male may imagine his sexual experience with women while doing so,<ref>Hensley, Christopher; Tewksbury, Richard (2002). "Inmate-to-Inmate Prison Sexuality : A Review of Empirical Studies". Trauma, Violence, & Abuse. 3 (3): 226–243. doi:10.1177/15248380020033005.</ref> and the less dominant male is motivated to offer consensual sex in exchange for protection and resources.<ref> Ristroph, Alice. "Prison, Detention, and Correctional Institutions." Encyclopedia of Sex and Gender. Ed. Fedwa Malti-Douglas. Vol. 3. Detroit: Macmillan Reference USA, 2007. 1196-1199. Gale Virtual Reference Library. Web. 7 Oct. 2016.</ref> | Evidence for the homocel hypothesis can be found in prison homosexuality (see [[prisoncel]]), where sexually frustrated men engage in homosexual acts to fulfill their sexual needs. The more dominant male may imagine his sexual experience with women while doing so,<ref>Hensley, Christopher; Tewksbury, Richard (2002). "Inmate-to-Inmate Prison Sexuality : A Review of Empirical Studies". Trauma, Violence, & Abuse. 3 (3): 226–243. doi:10.1177/15248380020033005.</ref> and the less dominant male is motivated to offer consensual sex in exchange for protection and resources.<ref> Ristroph, Alice. "Prison, Detention, and Correctional Institutions." Encyclopedia of Sex and Gender. Ed. Fedwa Malti-Douglas. Vol. 3. Detroit: Macmillan Reference USA, 2007. 1196-1199. Gale Virtual Reference Library. Web. 7 Oct. 2016.</ref> | ||
Peripheralized males engaging in homosexual behavior (grooming, penis display and touching, and sodomy) can be also found in various primate species, and has been observed in all-male societies of pirates, as well as in vulnerable British men transported to Australia as punishment for crimes. | Peripheralized males engaging in homosexual behavior (grooming, penis display and touching, and sodomy) can be also found in various primate species, and has been observed in all-male societies of pirates, as well as in vulnerable British men transported to Australia as punishment for crimes. | ||
Homoerotic alliances between low and high status males are also evidenced in reports of working-class England at the turn of the century, Australian Aborigines, tribes in Melanesia | Homoerotic alliances between low and high status males are also evidenced in reports of working-class England at the turn of the century, Australian Aborigines, tribes in Melanesia and Papua (though homosexuality in some Melanesian cultures often has a ritualized, religious element<ref>https://www.jstor.org/stable/646389?seq=1</ref>), New Guinea, contemporary Thailand, and Edo era Japan.<ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1300/J082v40n01_03</ref><ref>https://soranews24.com/2015/01/21/edo-era-samurai-were-pretty-gay/</ref> | ||
Muscarella suggested peripheralized men can establish sexually intimate social ties with sexually frustrated men of higher social standing, to partially re-gain their access to resources and potentially restoring some [[reproductive success]] (and hence be adaptive behavior).<ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1300/J082v40n01_03</ref> Pederasty in several cultures like Romans and Ancient Japan may be related to such adaptive behavior as the growing boys often lack status and can gain access to resources through a more dominant/older male, as well as get resources in terms of knowledge being passed on from a more experienced male. | Muscarella suggested peripheralized men can establish sexually intimate social ties with sexually frustrated men of higher social standing, to partially re-gain their access to resources and potentially restoring some [[reproductive success]] (and hence be adaptive behavior).<ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1300/J082v40n01_03</ref> Pederasty in several cultures like Romans and Ancient Japan may be related to such adaptive behavior as the growing boys often lack status and can gain access to resources through a more dominant/older male, as well as get resources in terms of knowledge being passed on from a more experienced male. | ||
Resources are scarcer and hence more important in [[life history|harsh ecologies]] such as the winter in Northern/Eastern hemispheres, so one would expect [[life history|k-selected]] males there to exhibit more homocel and homosocial behavior to get some crumbs in dire conditions, whereas peripheralized males in easy, tropical ecologies can simply pick fruits all year long. Evidence for this may be that U.S. Asians are three times more likely to report a homosexual orientation than the country's average.<ref>http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2012/11/in-east-asians-blunted-sense-of-disgust.html</ref> Homosexual orientation is in fact also related to [[IQ]].<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/221794570_Intelligence_and_homosexuality</ref> | Resources are scarcer and hence more important in [[life history|harsh ecologies]] such as the winter in Northern/Eastern hemispheres, so one would expect [[life history|k-selected]] males there to exhibit more homocel and homosocial behavior to get some crumbs in dire conditions, whereas peripheralized males in easy, tropical ecologies can simply pick fruits all year long. Evidence for this may be that U.S. Asians are three times more likely to report a homosexual orientation than the country's average.<ref>[https://akinokure.blogspot.com/2012/11/in-east-asians-blunted-sense-of-disgust.html http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2012/11/in-east-asians-blunted-sense-of-disgust.html]</ref> Homosexual orientation is in fact also related to [[IQ]].<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/221794570_Intelligence_and_homosexuality</ref> | ||
Evidence for homocel hypothesis can also be found in [[Behavioral sink|mouse utopia experiments]], where socially deprived rodents in extremely overpopulated environments started engaging in deviant sexual behavior, including homosexuality. | Evidence for homocel hypothesis can also be found in [[Behavioral sink|mouse utopia experiments]], where socially deprived rodents in extremely overpopulated environments started engaging in deviant sexual behavior, including homosexuality. | ||
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Since [[autism|autists]] overwhelmingly are socially excluded, have low social status and frequently experience inceldom, the homocel theory may explain why autists are 10x more likely to be homosexual,<ref>http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/bjprcpsych/201/2/116.full.pdf</ref> or to [[trannymaxxing|transition]] to another gender, with research finding much higher rates and severity of autism among transsexuals.<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6223809/</ref> Disabled men are also twice as likely to have an alternative sexual orientation.<ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09687599.2019.1689925</ref> | Since [[autism|autists]] overwhelmingly are socially excluded, have low social status and frequently experience inceldom, the homocel theory may explain why autists are 10x more likely to be homosexual,<ref>http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/bjprcpsych/201/2/116.full.pdf</ref> or to [[trannymaxxing|transition]] to another gender, with research finding much higher rates and severity of autism among transsexuals.<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6223809/</ref> Disabled men are also twice as likely to have an alternative sexual orientation.<ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09687599.2019.1689925</ref> | ||
66% of men who were homosexual change their orientation to heterosexual five years later which might point to homocels seeing opportunities to [[ascension|ascend]] in accordance with Muscarella's alliance formation theory.<ref>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26048483</ref> | 66% of men who were homosexual change their orientation to heterosexual five years later which might point to homocels seeing opportunities to [[ascension|ascend]] in accordance with Muscarella's alliance formation theory.<ref>[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26048483 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26048483]</ref> | ||
==Anecdotal evidence== | ==Anecdotal evidence== | ||
===Futanari porn=== | ===In Social Media, Memes, and Anime=== | ||
====Futanari porn==== | |||
One observes a high consumption of futanari porn (females with penisses) in some forums frequented by incels such as [[4chan]]. | One observes a high consumption of futanari porn (females with penisses) in some forums frequented by incels such as [[4chan]]. | ||
More anecdotal evidence [[manlet]] sex-workers who can only attract male customers and then become fetishists of cock. | More anecdotal evidence [[manlet]] sex-workers who can only attract male customers and then become fetishists of cock. | ||
Incel men who become bicurious rarely become romantically interested in men, but rather their interest becomes a fetish in sexual organs and desire. | Incel men who become bicurious rarely become romantically interested in men, but rather their interest becomes a fetish in sexual organs and desire. | ||
Vlogger [[BrendioEEE]] has accused [[r9k]] of being a pipeline from | Vlogger [[BrendioEEE]] has accused [[r9k]] of being a pipeline from inceldom to [[homosexuality]] through futanari and cock fetish pornography. Indeed there is a whole genre of "porn" where cropped pictures of erect penises are mashed up against faces of women to make incels associate women with cock. | ||
====Femboys==== | |||
Nowadays femboys are becoming more and more popular on the internet. There is a concerning amount of attention given especially by alt right incels to femboys on social media. While this may be just for meme purposes, it can not go unnoticed. This also may explain the rise in "femboy complations" on social media apps like tiktok. It also can be noted that various animes especially in more recent times to include characters that look highly feminene, and sometimes can pass off as women or look completely like women but are identifie as male, used to (and still often) reffered to as "traps" on online forums such as 4chan to be boys, a few good examples being Felix Argyle from Re:Zero, or Astolfo from the Fate Grand Order series. Many of which tend to be very popular in anime communities. In anime communities this may have significant co-morbity with the below sub-type. | |||
==== Yaoi (BL) ==== | |||
Although [[Yaoi]] (boys love) is largely produced and consumed by a majority female demographic, there are many male gay and bisexual people (and some even self-identified straight people) who also participate in its consumption, | |||
Similarly to the above two sub-categories where feminine features are mixed with homosexual aspects, within many anime communities, many male consumers of Yaoi may often have shifted at least partially away from traditional anime hentai to find interest in more androgynous anime boys often with some feminine characteristics as preferable, similarly, some may find shota (the male euvililent of [[Loli]]) as desirable despite the fact shotas typically have traditionally few masculine features and sometimes even are shown to crossdress. Although these standards of male attractiveness tend to be seen as highly unrealistic for most real men, and many male consumers of BL (typically refered to as "fundanshis") may often be bisexual or even identify as straight in real life due to the significant difference between typical androgynous anime boys and actual men who often don't meet said standards | |||
One could argue that Yaoi is very similar to the two above sub-categories or that they could be apart of a natural progression of interest where for example an avid porn addict (such as a [[Weebcel]] who watches hentai) may start slowly skweing away from tradition hentai doujins and begin experimenting with consuming with more niche content, such as futanari and slowly start progressing to femboys and then straight on Yaoi as the consumer becomes more comfortable with certain male artibutes which can be argued to make people more likely to identify as bisexual or gay. This might hold some water as some sources imply that the more porn you watch the more likely you are to be bisexual <ref>https://nypost.com/2019/02/26/people-who-watch-porn-are-more-likely-to-be-bisexual-study/</ref> | |||
Men who tend to avoid androynous males or typical gender dynamics and focus on relationships of more hyper-masculine hunky males in media like Bara are often seperate from the above and can be considered their own sub-type who are often typically more likely to identify as fully or mostly gay which can be noted due to their lack of any feminine features in characters and tending to over emphesise their masculine traits. | |||
=== In Politics and Real Life === | |||
===Arabic countries=== | |||
It is rumored that in Arabic countries, where many men are priced out of a bride due to mass societal polygyny, that homosexual acts become relatively commonplace in private among males experiencing inceldom as a [[cope|coping]] mechanism. It is also rumored that in certain Arabic terrorist organizations men dress as women and have sex with the other men, again as a [[cope]] for having no one to love | |||
==Getgle's video== | ==Getgle's video== | ||
YouTuber Getgle made a video that explained the basic gist of the homocel hypothesis, with his own bias. | YouTuber Getgle made a video that explained the basic gist of the homocel hypothesis, with his own bias. | ||
Warning, creepy homosexual evangelism contained therein: | Warning, creepy homosexual evangelism contained therein: | ||
<youtube>aLAaSOJcB00</youtube> | <youtube>aLAaSOJcB00</youtube> | ||
==References== | ==References== | ||
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==See also== | ==See also== | ||
*[[Trans-vestigiality hypothesis]] | *[[Trans-vestigiality hypothesis]] | ||
*[[Homosexuality]] | *[[Homosexuality]] | ||
*[[Feminization]] | *[[Feminization]] | ||
[[Category:Gaycels]] | [[Category:Gaycels]] | ||
[[Category:Theories]] | [[Category:Theories]] | ||