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A '''nice guy''' is a [[beta]] male who acts agreeable and pleasant towards either sex, often [[shy]], [[social awkwardness|socially awkward]] and bad at flirting. [[Blackpill]]ers and [[redpill]]ers accuse nice guys of being [[bluepill|bluepilled]] about women's mating preferences, and predict their best hope is to be [[betabux]]xed to a post-[[wall]] femoid, provided femoids are being encouraged to [[demographics|marry very late]]. Nice guy's niceness and tendency to smile is commonly explained by [[dominance hierarchy|low dominance status]], [[neuroatypicality]], physical weakness, religious or [[gynocentrism|gynocentric]] domestication, or a genetic disposition for [[shyness]]. Many nice guys may genetically be slow [[life history]] strategists, programmed to wait [[arranged marriage|to be married]] which never occurs in modern society.
A '''nice guy''' is a [[beta]] male who acts agreeable and pleasant towards either sex, often [[shy]], [[social awkwardness|socially awkward]] and bad at flirting. [[Blackpill]]ers and [[redpill]]ers accuse nice guys of being [[bluepill|bluepilled]] about women's mating preferences, and predict their best hope is to be [[betabux]]xed to a post-[[wall]] femoid, provided femoids are being encouraged to [[demographics|marry very late]]. Nice guy's niceness and tendency to smile is commonly explained by [[dominance hierarchy|low dominance status]], [[neuroatypicality]], physical weakness, religious or [[gynocentrism|gynocentric]] domestication, or a genetic disposition for [[shyness]]. Many nice guys may genetically be slow [[life history]] strategists, programmed to wait [[arranged marriage|to be married]] which never occurs in modern society.
== Women prefer bullies over nice men ==
== Women prefer bullies over nice men ==
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Contrary to men, women tend to prefer a disagreeable partner during the initial stages of [[dating]] once men have passed their [[LMS]] test.<ref>https://www.newsweek.com/study-finds-men-nice-women-not-other-way-around-261269</ref><ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0146167214543879</ref>
Contrary to men, women tend to prefer a disagreeable partner during the initial stages of [[dating]] once men have passed their [[LMS]] test.<ref>https://www.newsweek.com/study-finds-men-nice-women-not-other-way-around-261269</ref><ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0146167214543879</ref> This results in [[bullies]] having substantially more sexual partners than the bullied.<ref>[https://archive.fo/ZGvcF http://archive.is/ZGvcF]</ref><ref>https://rd.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs40806-017-0126-4</ref><ref>https://www.deccanchronicle.com/lifestyle/sex-and-relationship/161217/dominance-may-make-bullies-more-attractive-leading-to-more-sex-study.html</ref><ref>https://scottbarrykaufman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/The-Dark-Triad-Personality.pdf</ref><ref>[https://archive.fo/e6p19 http://archive.is/e6p19]</ref><ref>https://www.timesofisrael.com/women-really-dont-go-for-nice-guys-study-indicates/</ref> This gives men an incentive to act like jerks to avoid being [[ghosting|ghosted]]. Women consequently tend to complain that there are no genuinely nice guys, which is thought to be a [[shit test]], [[virtue signaling]], or self-delusion.
This results in [[asshole|bullies]] having substantially more sexual partners than the bullied.<ref>http://archive.is/ZGvcF</ref><ref>https://rd.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs40806-017-0126-4</ref><ref>https://www.deccanchronicle.com/lifestyle/sex-and-relationship/161217/dominance-may-make-bullies-more-attractive-leading-to-more-sex-study.html</ref><ref>https://scottbarrykaufman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/The-Dark-Triad-Personality.pdf</ref><ref>http://archive.is/e6p19</ref><ref>https://www.timesofisrael.com/women-really-dont-go-for-nice-guys-study-indicates/</ref>
This gives men an incentive to act like jerks to avoid being [[ghosting|ghosted]]. Women consequently tend to complain that there are no genuinely nice guys, which is thought to be a [[shit test]], [[virtue signaling]], or self-delusion.


These insights are central to the [[red pill]], [[black pill]], and the countless clickbaity news articles about how "women love psycopaths", and they are related to [[hybristophilia]], i.e. women's sexual interest in criminal and violent males.
These insights are central to the [[red pill]], [[black pill]], and the countless clickbaity news articles about how "women love psycopaths", and they are related to [[hybristophilia]], i.e. women's sexual interest in criminal and violent males.
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An explanation for women's preference for bullies may be the [[bodyguard hypothesis]]. A very nice man can't protect. Excessively warmhearted men are also often perceived as [[creepy]] and suspect and manipulative,<ref>https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/07/27/the-kindest-cut</ref> which they may as well be. Excessive niceness is also awkward [[signaling theory|signaling]] as it is perceived as desperate, which in turn points to prior failure and flaws.
An explanation for women's preference for bullies may be the [[bodyguard hypothesis]]. A very nice man can't protect. Excessively warmhearted men are also often perceived as [[creepy]] and suspect and manipulative,<ref>https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2009/07/27/the-kindest-cut</ref> which they may as well be. Excessive niceness is also awkward [[signaling theory|signaling]] as it is perceived as desperate, which in turn points to prior failure and flaws.
==Fake nice guys==
==Fake nice guys==
Both [[womanosphere|womanospherians]] and [[manosphere|manospherians]] accuse many men of being "fake nice", but in different ways.
Both [[womanosphere|womanospherians]] and [[manosphere|manospherians]] accuse many men of being "fake nice", but in different ways.  


Womanospherians seem to have a problem with virtually all genuinely nice guys, but will label them as Nice Guys™ nonetheless (see [http://old.reddit.com/r/niceguys /r/niceguys]). They deem all actual nice guys as fake nice guys, distracting from the fact that women reward [[anti-social]] behaviour. They see it as hypocritical when nice guys get angry at the fact that most women in the Western world do not find nice guys sexually attractive. Because anger is often not nice when directed outwardly.
Womanospherians seem to have a problem with virtually all genuinely nice guys, but will label them as Nice Guys™ nonetheless (see [https://old.reddit.com/r/niceguys /r/niceguys]). They deem all actual nice guys as fake nice guys, distracting from the fact that women reward [[anti-social]] behaviour. They see it as hypocritical when nice guys get angry at the fact that most women in the Western world do not find nice guys sexually attractive. Because anger is often not nice when directed outwardly.


Womanospherians also have a problem with actual fake nice guys, but so does everyone else.
Womanospherians also have a problem with actual fake nice guys, but so does everyone else.
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Both [[womanosphere|womanospherians]] and [[manosphere|manospherians]] accuse men who they perceive as nice guys of deceiving women in dating.
Both [[womanosphere|womanospherians]] and [[manosphere|manospherians]] accuse men who they perceive as nice guys of deceiving women in dating.
== Notable nice guys in the incelosphere ==
== Notable nice guys in the incelosphere ==
The following individuals have been indentified as nice guys by [[normie]]s.
The following individuals have been indentified as nice guys by [[normie]]s.
*[[George Sodini]]
*[[George Sodini]]
*[[Kyle Incel]]
*[[Kyle Incel]]
*[[Downhill D Miller]]
*[[Downhill D Miller]]
== Gallery ==
== Gallery ==
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==References==
==References==
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== See also ==
== See also ==
* [[Male feminist]]
* [[Male feminist]]
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