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'''Just start early''' or '''teen love pill''' is a theory that missing out on dating, relationships and sex during as teens makes it more difficult to [[ascension|ascend]] later on. Sexual inexperience can become a turnoff or even a red flag. Moreover, virgins who wait until marriage also will struggle to find someone else who is willing to wait until marriage as almost everyone has premarital sex.  | '''Just start early''' or '''teen love pill''' is a theory that missing out on dating, relationships and sex during as teens makes it more difficult to [[ascension|ascend]] later on. Sexual inexperience can become a turnoff or even a red flag. Moreover, virgins who wait until marriage also will struggle to find someone else who is willing to wait until marriage as almost everyone has premarital sex.  | ||
== Missing out on teenage love hinders success later on ==  | == Missing out on teenage love hinders success later on ==  | ||
In a pivotal study about involuntary celibacy from 2001 called "Involuntary Celibacy: A Life Course Analysis", researchers talked to three involuntarily celibate groups of people: 1) involuntary virgins (those who never had sex and still are sexually inexperienced), 2) singles (those who had sexual experience in the past but no longer are able to, and a good amount of these people resorted to hookers or even sexual surrogates), 3) partnered celibates (those who are married or in a relationship but their partner won't have sex). 91% of the virgins said they never dated as teenagers, compared to 52% of singles. Here is an important quote:  | |||
In a pivotal study about involuntary celibacy from 2001 called Involuntary Celibacy: A Life Course Analysis, researchers talked to three involuntarily celibate groups of people:   | |||
"In summary, while most of our sample had discussed sex with friends and experimented with masturbation as teens, most of the virgins and singles did not date. Singles were similar to partnered persons in terms of first sexual experiences, while the majority of virgins reported first sexual experiences that did not include another person. As the data illustrates, virgins and singles may have missed important transitions, and as they got older, their trajectories began to differ from those of their age peers. As Thorton (1990) noted, patterns of sexuality in young adulthood are significantly related to dating, steady dating, and sexual experience in adolescence. It is rare for a teenager to initiate sexual activity outside of a dating relationship. Thus, persons reaching young adulthood without dating may have missed an important opportunity for sexual experience. While virginity and lack of experience are fairly common in teenagers and young adults, by the time many of our respondents reached their mid-twenties they reported feeling left behind by age peers. We suspect that this is especially true for gay, lesbian, and bisexual youth. In fact, all eight of the non-heterosexual respondents in our sample were either virgins or singles. As previous researchers have shown, a major reason for becoming off time in making sexual transitions is the process of coming out to oneself and others (Gonsiorek & Rudolph, 1991). Even for the heterosexuals in our study, however, it appears that lack of dating and sexual experimentation in the teen years may be precursors to problems in adult sexual relationships."  | "In summary, while most of our sample had discussed sex with friends and experimented with masturbation as teens, most of the virgins and singles did not date. Singles were similar to partnered persons in terms of first sexual experiences, while the majority of virgins reported first sexual experiences that did not include another person. As the data illustrates, virgins and singles may have missed important transitions, and as they got older, their trajectories began to differ from those of their age peers. As Thorton (1990) noted, patterns of sexuality in young adulthood are significantly related to dating, steady dating, and sexual experience in adolescence. It is rare for a teenager to initiate sexual activity outside of a dating relationship. Thus, persons reaching young adulthood without dating may have missed an important opportunity for sexual experience. While virginity and lack of experience are fairly common in teenagers and young adults, by the time many of our respondents reached their mid-twenties they reported feeling left behind by age peers. We suspect that this is especially true for gay, lesbian, and bisexual youth. In fact, all eight of the non-heterosexual respondents in our sample were either virgins or singles. As previous researchers have shown, a major reason for becoming off time in making sexual transitions is the process of coming out to oneself and others (Gonsiorek & Rudolph, 1991). Even for the heterosexuals in our study, however, it appears that lack of dating and sexual experimentation in the teen years may be precursors to problems in adult sexual relationships."  | ||
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Bluepillers will argue that teenagers have an awkward time or painful time during sex because of inexperience or virginity loss, but the same is true for anyone who loses their virginity regardless of their age. Two 30 year olds who lose their virginity together or a 30 year old virgin who loses his/her virginity to an experienced 30 year old could also experience this. Some might argue that teenage relationships are dumb or aren't proper relationships because teens are immature, but that really shows that teenagers are simply learning how to handle relationships and that while people in their 20s will be experienced with relationships, people who missed out on teen love will be novices and thus interpersonally and mentally behind their peers, making them more likely to struggle with relationships compared to their peers.  | Bluepillers will argue that teenagers have an awkward time or painful time during sex because of inexperience or virginity loss, but the same is true for anyone who loses their virginity regardless of their age. Two 30 year olds who lose their virginity together or a 30 year old virgin who loses his/her virginity to an experienced 30 year old could also experience this. Some might argue that teenage relationships are dumb or aren't proper relationships because teens are immature, but that really shows that teenagers are simply learning how to handle relationships and that while people in their 20s will be experienced with relationships, people who missed out on teen love will be novices and thus interpersonally and mentally behind their peers, making them more likely to struggle with relationships compared to their peers.  | ||
== Women are turned off by virgins ==  | == Women are turned off by virgins ==  | ||
According to a study in The Journal of Sex Research, people are judgmental towards virgins in real life, not just in movies or television shows. In the first part of the study, researchers asked 560 heterosexual adults ages 18 to 71, about a quarter of whom were virgins, to rate their agreement with statements like "I feel that I am odd or abnormal because of my level of sexual experience" and "People treat me differently because of my level of sexual experience." Researchers discovered that virgins—but not those who were very sexually experienced—perceived a lot of stigma and exclusion around their sex lives. Then, the researchers asked another group of 4,934 single, heterosexual adults 21 and over, "How likely are you to consider getting into a committed relationship with someone who is a virgin?" The results confirmed the first findings: People rated their likelihood of dating a virgin at a 2.41, below the scale's midpoint of 2.5. The researchers also found that virgins were even less likely than non-virgins to be willing to enter a relationship with another virgin. Nonetheless, mysteriously, another study shows that virgins are more willing than non-virgins to date other virgins. In the third part of the study, college students ranked dating profiles of virgins and non-virgins, and the latter were again considered more desirable dates. Nonetheless, in this case, virgins were more willing than the rest of the population to dating another virgin. In a survey conducted by Match.com among single men and women who are non-members of Match.com (i.e.: not members of Match.com), 42% of respondents said they refuse to date a virgin (51% of women, compared to only 33% of men). Younger single adults were less willing to date a virgin than older single adults.  | According to a study in The Journal of Sex Research, people are judgmental towards virgins in real life, not just in movies or television shows. In the first part of the study, researchers asked 560 heterosexual adults ages 18 to 71, about a quarter of whom were virgins, to rate their agreement with statements like "I feel that I am odd or abnormal because of my level of sexual experience" and "People treat me differently because of my level of sexual experience." Researchers discovered that virgins—but not those who were very sexually experienced—perceived a lot of stigma and exclusion around their sex lives. Then, the researchers asked another group of 4,934 single, heterosexual adults 21 and over, "How likely are you to consider getting into a committed relationship with someone who is a virgin?" The results confirmed the first findings: People rated their likelihood of dating a virgin at a 2.41, below the scale's midpoint of 2.5. The researchers also found that virgins were even less likely than non-virgins to be willing to enter a relationship with another virgin. Nonetheless, mysteriously, another study shows that virgins are more willing than non-virgins to date other virgins. In the third part of the study, college students ranked dating profiles of virgins and non-virgins, and the latter were again considered more desirable dates. Nonetheless, in this case, virgins were more willing than the rest of the population to dating another virgin. In a survey conducted by Match.com among single men and women who are non-members of Match.com (i.e.: not members of Match.com), 42% of respondents said they refuse to date a virgin (51% of women, compared to only 33% of men). Younger single adults were less willing to date a virgin than older single adults.  | ||
Although this means that 49% of single women are willing to date a virgin, there are still many women who refuse to. This means that if an adult male virgin tries to start relationships with women, he will face a lot of rejections half the time. Although one study shows that virgins are more willing than non-virgins to date other virgins, another shows that virgins are less willing than non-virgins to date another virgin, and even if virgins are willing to date a virgin, virgins are very rare by young adulthood.  | Although this means that 49% of single women are willing to date a virgin, there are still many women who refuse to. This means that if an adult male virgin tries to start relationships with women, he will face a lot of rejections half the time. Although one study shows that virgins are more willing than non-virgins to date other virgins, another shows that virgins are less willing than non-virgins to date another virgin, and even if virgins are willing to date a virgin, virgins are very rare by young adulthood.  | ||
== Further evidence ==  | == Further evidence ==  | ||
===Videos===  | ===Videos===  | ||
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While there can be a fair amount of women who are willing to date a virgin, these videos show that many women don't want to date a virgin because they want men who are experienced. Men in these videos were more likely to give a virgin a chance. One of the woman in these videos said there's something wrong with you if you're 20 or older and still a virgin.  | While there can be a fair amount of women who are willing to date a virgin, these videos show that many women don't want to date a virgin because they want men who are experienced. Men in these videos were more likely to give a virgin a chance. One of the woman in these videos said there's something wrong with you if you're 20 or older and still a virgin.  | ||
=== A turn-off becomes a red flag with age ===  | === A turn-off becomes a red flag with age ===  | ||
In many threads on forums, while some women were willing to date virgins, there were also some who didn't want to. On r/AskWomen, in some threads, when asked what age being a virgin becomes a red flag, many women would say 22 or 23, some would say 24 or 25 or older 20s. Many people will wonder why you're still a virgin. They'll assume you're either super religious or that you're weird or awkward or there's a reason women didn't want you, and thus they should avoid you. There's threads online where men and women who are still virgins spoke about being rejected when their partner found out they're a virgin. Some of these virgins were as young as 19 or 20 years old.  | In many threads on forums, while some women were willing to date virgins, there were also some who didn't want to. On r/AskWomen, in some threads, when asked what age being a virgin becomes a red flag, many women would say 22 or 23, some would say 24 or 25 or older 20s. Many people will wonder why you're still a virgin. They'll assume you're either super religious or that you're weird or awkward or there's a reason women didn't want you, and thus they should avoid you. There's threads online where men and women who are still virgins spoke about being rejected when their partner found out they're a virgin. Some of these virgins were as young as 19 or 20 years old.  | ||
== References ==  | == References ==  | ||
* Baarsma, M. E., Boonmann, C., ’t Hart-Kerkhoffs, L. A., de Graaf, H., Doreleijers, T. A. H., Vermeiren, R. R. J. M., & Jansen, L. M. C. (2016). [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4938848/pdf/10803_2016_Article_2805.pdf Sexuality and Autistic-Like Symptoms in Juvenile Sex Offenders: A Follow-Up After 8 Years.] Journal of Autism and Developmental Disorders, 46(8), 2679–2691. doi:10.1007/s10803-016-2805-6.  | * Baarsma, M. E., Boonmann, C., ’t Hart-Kerkhoffs, L. A., de Graaf, H., Doreleijers, T. A. H., Vermeiren, R. R. J. M., & Jansen, L. M. C. (2016). [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4938848/pdf/10803_2016_Article_2805.pdf Sexuality and Autistic-Like Symptoms in Juvenile Sex Offenders: A Follow-Up After 8 Years.] Journal of Autism and Developmental Disorders, 46(8), 2679–2691. doi:10.1007/s10803-016-2805-6.  | ||
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* Weiss, Suzannah (March 30, 2016). [https://www.glamour.com/story/stigma-against-virgins "The Stigma Against Virgins Is Real, Study Says".] Glamour.  | * Weiss, Suzannah (March 30, 2016). [https://www.glamour.com/story/stigma-against-virgins "The Stigma Against Virgins Is Real, Study Says".] Glamour.  | ||
== See also ==  | == See also ==  | ||
* [[Virginity]]  | * [[Virginity]]  | ||
* [[Youngcel]]  | * [[Youngcel]]  | ||
* [[Blackpill]]  | * [[Blackpill]]  | ||
* [[Matthew effect]]  | * [[Matthew effect]]  | ||
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[[Category:Theories]]  | [[Category:Theories]]  | ||
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