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The vast majority of incels do not support rape with very [[Caamib|few exceptions]]. Many, however, assume that involuntary celibacy is more painful for men than rape is for women. Deprivation is much more agonizing than discomfort that passes. This does not excuse rapists, but it is something women don't understand.
The vast majority of incels do not support rape with very [[Caamib|few exceptions]]. Many, however, assume that involuntary celibacy is more painful for men than rape is for women. Deprivation is much more agonizing than discomfort that passes. This does not excuse rapists, but it is something women don't understand.


Several lines of research seem to disprove the notion that sexually unsuccessful men are more likely to be driven to rape out of desperation:  Lalumière et al. (1996) conducted a study that found that sexually coercive men were more sexually successful, and had a higher self-perceived mate value.<ref name="ref48"></ref> Another study on male college students (N = 795) found that men who confessed to having previously raped or engaged in acts of sexual coercion also typically reported having more sexual partners than control men. While some of these rapists were recidivists, so their acts of rape would have served to also inflate their self-reported partner count, "number of sex partners" was found to be a significant predictor of likelihood of having previously carried out acts of sexual violence.<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24567167</ref> Ellis, Widmayer & Palmer (2009) found that rapists reported a much greater number of lifetime sex partners (both mean and median) compared to non-rapists, though this may have been influenced by the fact that the authors didn't exclude non-heterosexual males from the sample.<ref name="ref50"></ref>
Several lines of research seem to disprove the notion that sexually unsuccessful men are more likely to be driven to rape out of desperation:  Lalumière et al. (1996) conducted a study that found that sexually coercive men were more sexually successful, and had a higher self-perceived mate value.<ref name="ref48"></ref> Another study on male college students (N = 795) found that men who confessed to having previously raped or engaged in acts of sexual coercion also typically reported having more sexual partners than control men. While some of these rapists were recidivists, so their acts of rape would have served to also inflate their self-reported partner count, "number of sex partners" was found to be a significant predictor of likelihood of having previously carried out acts of sexual violence.<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24567167</ref> Ellis, Widmayer & Palmer (2009) found that rapists reported a much greater number of lifetime sex partners (both mean and median) compared to non-rapists, though this may have been influenced by the fact that the authors didn't exclude non-heterosexual males from the sample.<ref name="ref50"></ref> Conversely, adult virgins tend to report lower engagement in risky behavior, a low [[sex drive]] and other slow [[life history]] traits.<ref>Haydon, A. A., Cheng, M. M., Herring, A. H., McRee, A.-L., & Halpern, C. T. (2013). Prevalence and Predictors of Sexual Inexperience in Adulthood. Archives of Sexual Behavior, 43(2), 221–230. doi:10.1007/s10508-013-0164-3</ref>


Groth and Birnbaum (1979) summarized:<ref>Groth AN, Birnbaum HJ. 1979. ''Men Who Rape: The Psychology of the Offender.''</ref>
Groth and Birnbaum (1979) summarized:<ref>Groth AN, Birnbaum HJ. 1979. ''Men Who Rape: The Psychology of the Offender.''</ref>
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