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Some of the most cultish members in blackpilled forums tell incels to commit suicide, and they actively seek to "spread the blackpill", which means using cherrypicked studies to evangelize others to "swallow" the blackpill narrative and shaming non-believers as [[cuck]]s or [[soyboy]]s.
Some of the most cultish members in blackpilled forums tell incels to commit suicide, and they actively seek to "spread the blackpill", which means using cherrypicked studies to evangelize others to "swallow" the blackpill narrative and shaming non-believers as [[cuck]]s or [[soyboy]]s.
Some do this to lessen feelings of shame or guilt among incels and relieve them from false hope,<ref>https://incels.co/threads/what-are-you-doing-to-spread-the-blackpill.53911/#post-995860,</ref> some want to change discourse in society,<ref>https://incels.co/threads/infiltrating-universities-to-spread-the-blackpill.67531/</ref> while others are vocal about trying to full-on "spark a revolution". Seemingly, the main thing that distinguishes the most cultish members from traditional death cults is their lack of congruent or zealous community philosophical leaders.  On [[incels.co]] there are no such leaders as the community admin, [[SergeantIncel]], advocates the [[whitepill]] which is all about acceptance and positivity.
Some do this to lessen feelings of shame or guilt among incels and relieve them from false hope,<ref>https://incels.co/threads/what-are-you-doing-to-spread-the-blackpill.53911/#post-995860,</ref> some want to change discourse in society,<ref>https://incels.co/threads/infiltrating-universities-to-spread-the-blackpill.67531/</ref> while others are vocal about trying to full-on "spark a revolution". Seemingly, the main thing that distinguishes the most cultish members from traditional death cults is their lack of congruent or zealous community philosophical leaders.  On [[incels.co]] there are no such leaders as the community admin, [[SergeantIncel]], advocates the [[whitepill]].


===Alt-right===
===Blackpill science===


The person who first formalized the blackpill, [[Paragon]], believed in radical [[biological essentialism]], a prominent [[alt-right]] view.  Paragon is white, but not knowingly a white nationalist or member of the alt-right as a collective and is thought to be currently living in the Philippines.  The first two blackpill boards anywhere were either founded or discussion-seeded by a self-described "neo-reactionary", i.e. [[Caamib]].  Reddit made it clear they would not tolerate that style of incel discussion, and so Braincels was populated next.  Braincels was a previously dormant sub founded by a non-racist anarcho-communist named [[AnathematicAnarchist]]. The forum espoused a unique version of the blackpill and was not particularly traditionalist or alt-right (outside of slut-shaming). Braincels actively sought to minimize racism in their Reddit community and before [[AnathematicAnarchist]] committed suicide, were largely hostile to the [[alt-right]].<ref>http://redditsearch.io/?term=racism%20&dataviz=false&aggs=false&subreddits=braincels&searchtype=posts&search=true&start=0&end=1583051366&size=100</ref><ref>http://redditsearch.io/?term=alt-right&dataviz=false&aggs=false&subreddits=braincels&searchtype=posts&search=true&start=0&end=1583051401&size=100</ref>  The lack of racism on Braincels was largely due to continuous bans of alt-right users, presumably mainly to prevent the entire subreddit from being banned but also because the mods were ethnics (one was an Indian Stalinist).
Largely separate from other incel or blackpill communities, people have begun to share and read scientific studies on dating and human sexual behavior on [https://old.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience /r/BlackPillScience], which later lead to the creation of the [[Scientific Blackpill]] article by incels.co ex-mod RageAgainstTheTDL, as well as wiki writers Altmark22 and Bibipi.


On [[incels.co]], the current largest blackpill community, anywhere between 6% and 27% of users identify as [[alt-right]] (95% CI).<ref>https://incels.co/threads/whats-your-second-preferred-division-of-the-manosphere-after-incel.106366/</ref> and 49% identify as [[traditionalism|traditionalists]].<ref>https://incels.co/threads/the-ultimate-political-poll.61898/</ref> Their continued non-banned presence on the forum<ref>https://incels.co/threads/to-the-wns-would-asians-or-hapas-be-allowed-in-the-ethnostate.108581/</ref><ref>https://incels.co/threads/james-allsup-youtuber-casually-drops-the-race-realism-pill-on-1-5-million-viewers.109543/</ref> leads to constant threads complaining about race-baiting, far-right views, and there exists mild but ultimately toothless animosity between "stormfrontcels" and ethnic users. However, many openly racist users have also been banned.
===Alt-right===
The person who first formalized the blackpill, [[Paragon]], believed in radical [[biological essentialism]]. The first two blackpill boards anywhere were either founded or discussion-seeded by a self-described "neo-reactionary", i.e. [[Caamib]]. Reddit made it clear they would not tolerate that style of incel discussion, and so Braincels was populated next. Braincels was a previously dormant sub founded by an anarcho-communist named [[AnathematicAnarchist]]. The forum espoused a unique version of the blackpill and was not particularly traditionalist or alt-right (outside of slut-shaming)Braincels actively sought to minimize racism in their Reddit community before [[AnathematicAnarchist]] committed suicide were largely hostile to the alt-right.<ref>http://redditsearch.io/?term=racism%20&dataviz=false&aggs=false&subreddits=braincels&searchtype=posts&search=true&start=0&end=1583051366&size=100</ref><ref>http://redditsearch.io/?term=alt-right&dataviz=false&aggs=false&subreddits=braincels&searchtype=posts&search=true&start=0&end=1583051401&size=100</ref>  


===Traditionalism===
===Traditionalism===
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The social conservatism and focus on [[sexual sublimation]] reminds of the philosophy of 20th century English ethnologist [[J. D. Unwin]]. Most traditionalist blackpillers are atheist, but some promote cultural Christianity or other religions.
The social conservatism and focus on [[sexual sublimation]] reminds of the philosophy of 20th century English ethnologist [[J. D. Unwin]]. Most traditionalist blackpillers are atheist, but some promote cultural Christianity or other religions.
Non-traditionalist blackpillers tend to be anti-[[tradcon]].
Non-traditionalist blackpillers tend to be anti-[[tradcon]].
===Blackpill science===
Largely separate from other incel or blackpill communities, people have begun to share and read scientific studies on dating and human sexual behavior on [https://old.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience /r/BlackPillScience], which later lead to the creation of the [[Scientific Blackpill]] article by incels.co janitor RageAgainstTheTDL, as well as wiki writers Altmark22 and Bibipi.


===Blackpill Feminism===
===Blackpill Feminism===
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'''Nature arguments'''
'''Nature arguments'''


* Nothing can change female sexual desire ([[biological essentialism]])
*Nothing can change female sexual desire ([[biological essentialism]])
* Dating success is determined by things men cannot easily improve on such as [[LMS|looks, money, status]], [[heightpill|physical stature]], race, [[IQ]] and [[neurotypical]]ity, rather than [[personality]]
*Dating success is determined by things men cannot easily improve on such as [[LMS|looks, money, status]], [[heightpill|physical stature]], race, [[IQ]] and [[neurotypical]]ity, rather than [[personality]]
* Most incels are hopeless without cosmetic surgery
*Most incels are hopeless without cosmetic surgery
* Everyone's [[sexual market value]] is mostly or entirely genetically determined
*Everyone's [[sexual market value]] is mostly or entirely genetically determined
* That men's genetic quality is accurately determined by women at large (good genes hypothesis), and that this applies today
*That men's genetic quality is accurately determined by women at large (good genes hypothesis), and that this applies today
* Women like big [[penis|dicks]]
*Women like big [[penis|dicks]]
* Forced sex is [[steeling effect|not so bad]] and [[rape|many women like it]]
*Forced sex is [[steeling effect|not so bad]] and [[rape|many women like it]]


'''Women bad'''
'''Women bad'''
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