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The blackpill is an internet philosophy that female sexual desire is very inflexible,<ref>https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/she-felt-unloved/#comment-22914</ref> that women [[biological essentialism|naturally]] [[sexual selection|select]] men based on [[looks]] rather than [[personality]], and that [[good genes hypothesis|women select men with the best genes]]. Thus the belief system is more than just a belief in women being mostly [[lookism|lookist]] in dating. For blackpillers, ugly ('genetically inferior') men have no chance of getting laid without more or less tying women down to individual men, which blackpillers propose. Hardcore blackpillers often promote suicide for incels. A significant amount, but not all blackpillers, promote rape.<ref> | The blackpill is an internet philosophy that female sexual desire is very inflexible,<ref>https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/she-felt-unloved/#comment-22914</ref> that women [[biological essentialism|naturally]] [[sexual selection|select]] men based on [[looks]] rather than [[personality]], and that [[good genes hypothesis|women select men with the best genes]]. Thus the belief system is more than just a belief in women being mostly [[lookism|lookist]] in dating. For blackpillers, ugly ('genetically inferior') men have no chance of getting laid without more or less tying women down to individual men, which blackpillers propose. Hardcore blackpillers often promote suicide for incels. A significant amount, but not all blackpillers, promote rape.<ref>*https://incels.co/threads/rape-isnt-as-big-as-deal-as-women-make-it-to-be.191619/ | ||
*https://incels.co/threads/rape-isnt-as-big-as-deal-as-women-make-it-to-be.191619/ | |||
*https://incels.co/threads/i-support-rape.95659/ | *https://incels.co/threads/i-support-rape.95659/ | ||
*https://incels.co/threads/incel-is-a-problematic-term-and-doesnt-fit-posters-here.191735/ | *https://incels.co/threads/incel-is-a-problematic-term-and-doesnt-fit-posters-here.191735/ | ||
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Not all incels are blackpillers and [[noncel blackpiller|not all blackpillers are incels]]. The media often conflate the two, and falsely insist a belief in the blackpill is something all self-identified incels share. Many self-identified incels do not believe in the blackpill and many reject the [[pill jargon|pill dichotomy]] altogether. More generally a 'blackpill' refers to anything associated with extreme fatalism, nihilism, pessimism, negativity, catastrophizing etc. | Not all incels are blackpillers and [[noncel blackpiller|not all blackpillers are incels]]. The media often conflate the two, and falsely insist a belief in the blackpill is something all self-identified incels share. Many self-identified incels do not believe in the blackpill and many reject the [[pill jargon|pill dichotomy]] altogether. More generally a 'blackpill' refers to anything associated with extreme fatalism, nihilism, pessimism, negativity, catastrophizing etc. | ||
== Origin of the term == | ==Origin of the term== | ||
The term blackpill was first used in 2011 by a blog commenter named ''Paragon'' on the Dalrock anti-[[feminist]] blog and later adopted by [[Omega Virgin Revolt|OmegaVirginRevolt's blog]]. | The term blackpill was first used in 2011 by a blog commenter named ''Paragon'' on the Dalrock anti-[[feminist]] blog and later adopted by [[Omega Virgin Revolt|OmegaVirginRevolt's blog]]. He enjoys an esteemed tenure as a mathematical biologist (with a PhD speciality in evolutionary systems), contributing singularly to the solution of important evolutionary problems. Paragon said only mass poverty could solve men's systemic [[dating]] issues, as he saw that as the only mechanism that could bind women to men short of eugenics. Modern blackpillers agree with Paragon that female desire in inflexible and that psychology is mostly determined by genetics. However modern blackpillers favor mechanisms such as promiscuity-shaming instead of poverty, to bind individual women to individual men. Facing [[dating]] difficulties in Ontario (Canada), Paragon moved from Canada to the Philippines, a less prosperous country than Canada, and married there. In Paragon's own words:<ref name="ref208"></ref> | ||
{{Quote|[…] to reconcile that there are no personal solutions to systemic problems—which can only resolve over evolutionary time. | {{Quote|[…] to reconcile that there are no personal solutions to systemic problems—which can only resolve over evolutionary time. | ||
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And any solution will very much entail steep trade-offs, in that males can’t have their cake and eat it too—a prosperous population of deferred ecological pressures (like we currently enjoy), without an expectation that this prosperity will increase the mating latitude of females (dramatically perturbing the breeding population, to the point of near evolutionary instability). | And any solution will very much entail steep trade-offs, in that males can’t have their cake and eat it too—a prosperous population of deferred ecological pressures (like we currently enjoy), without an expectation that this prosperity will increase the mating latitude of females (dramatically perturbing the breeding population, to the point of near evolutionary instability). | ||
One will always follow the other, as male consensus on these matters is practically impossible in terms of inter-sexual competition(as opposed to the broad accord females enjoy through an abundant wealth of sexual opportunities, courtesy of their reproductively limiting function).}} | One will always follow the other, as male consensus on these matters is practically impossible in terms of inter-sexual competition(as opposed to the broad accord females enjoy through an abundant wealth of sexual opportunities, courtesy of their reproductively limiting function).}}Paragon created his own blog in 2014, "''The Human Mating''" (https://sirtyrionlannister.wordpress.com). He's synthesizing real and empirical data for withstanding strong empirical tests, contributing to the logical integration of proximate and ultimate approaches to mating decisions, posting on mate choice in humans, and trying to approach all kind of issues: stochastic environmental events, optimal/minimal mate threshold for males/females, distribution of the quality of prospective mates, sexual selection, mating skew between and within sexes, density-dependent and OSR effects, Bateman gradients, variability in mating success and frequencies for males/ females, etc. | ||
== Blackpill communities == | ==Blackpill communities== | ||
The first large blackpill communities were hosted on [[Reddit]]. [[R/incels|/r/incels]] (a quarantine evasion of [[/r/truecels]]) was the first major incel community to use the term 'blackpill' and [[/r/braincels]] was the largest one. Most of the discussions there focused on [[roastie|slut-shaming]] and [[lookism]], largely ruminating on [[Tinder experiments|experiments]] and memes from [[r9k]], but also creating new ones, especially memes on lookism such as [[St. Blackops2cel]]. | The first large blackpill communities were hosted on [[Reddit]]. [[R/incels|/r/incels]] (a quarantine evasion of [[/r/truecels]]) was the first major incel community to use the term 'blackpill' and [[/r/braincels]] was the largest one. Most of the discussions there focused on [[roastie|slut-shaming]] and [[lookism]], largely ruminating on [[Tinder experiments|experiments]] and memes from [[r9k]], but also creating new ones, especially memes on lookism such as [[St. Blackops2cel]]. | ||
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Blackpillers mostly believe in [[biological essentialism|biological essentialism]] and evolutionary explanations for human social and sexual behavior. Many of these beliefs are not new at all, but draw from established scientific literature, e.g. on [[Briffault's law]], [[Bateman's principle]], [[Fisherian runaway]] and [[sexy sons hypothesis]]. | Blackpillers mostly believe in [[biological essentialism|biological essentialism]] and evolutionary explanations for human social and sexual behavior. Many of these beliefs are not new at all, but draw from established scientific literature, e.g. on [[Briffault's law]], [[Bateman's principle]], [[Fisherian runaway]] and [[sexy sons hypothesis]]. | ||
=== Shitposting vs cult === | ===Shitposting vs cult=== | ||
Blackpill memes on Reddit were largely shared for shitposting and venting,<ref>http://redditsearch.io/?term=braincels%20vent%20&dataviz=false&aggs=false&subreddits=&searchtype=comments&search=true&start=0&end=1582986983&size=1000</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelExit/comments/dqddyw/what_does_exit_mean_in_this_sub/f62negc/</ref> but near-cultish elements have coexisted due to some members taking the shitposting very seriously. | Blackpill memes on Reddit were largely shared for shitposting and venting,<ref>http://redditsearch.io/?term=braincels%20vent%20&dataviz=false&aggs=false&subreddits=&searchtype=comments&search=true&start=0&end=1582986983&size=1000</ref><ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelExit/comments/dqddyw/what_does_exit_mean_in_this_sub/f62negc/</ref> but near-cultish elements have coexisted due to some members taking the shitposting very seriously. | ||
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Some do this to lessen feelings of shame or guilt among incels and relieve them from a false hope,<ref>https://incels.co/threads/what-are-you-doing-to-spread-the-blackpill.53911/#post-995860,</ref> some want to change discourse in society,<ref>https://incels.co/threads/infiltrating-universities-to-spread-the-blackpill.67531/</ref> while others are vocal about trying to full-on "spark a revolution". Seemingly, the main thing that distinguishes the most cultish members from traditional death cults is their lack of congruent or zealous community philosophical leaders. On [[incels.co]] there are no such leaders as the community admin, [[SergeantIncel]], advocates the [[whitepill]] which is all about acceptance and positivity. | Some do this to lessen feelings of shame or guilt among incels and relieve them from a false hope,<ref>https://incels.co/threads/what-are-you-doing-to-spread-the-blackpill.53911/#post-995860,</ref> some want to change discourse in society,<ref>https://incels.co/threads/infiltrating-universities-to-spread-the-blackpill.67531/</ref> while others are vocal about trying to full-on "spark a revolution". Seemingly, the main thing that distinguishes the most cultish members from traditional death cults is their lack of congruent or zealous community philosophical leaders. On [[incels.co]] there are no such leaders as the community admin, [[SergeantIncel]], advocates the [[whitepill]] which is all about acceptance and positivity. | ||
=== Alt-right === | ===Alt-right=== | ||
The person who first formalized the blackpill, [[Paragon]], believed in radical [[biological essentialism]], a prominent [[alt-right]] view. Paragon is white, but not knowingly a white nationalist or member of the alt-right as a collective and is thought to be currently living in the Phillipines. The first two blackpill boards anywhere were either founded or discussion-seeded by a self-described "neo-reactionary", i.e. [[Caamib]]. Reddit made it clear they would not tolerate that style of incel discussion and so Braincels was populated next. Braincels was a previously dormant sub founded by a non-racist anarcho-communist named [[AnathematicAnarchist]]. The forum espoused a unique version of the blackpill and were not particularly traditionalist or alt-right (outside of slut-shaming). Braincels actively sought to minimize racism in their Reddit community and before [[AnathematicAnarchist]] committed suicide, were largely hostile to the [[alt-right]].<ref>http://redditsearch.io/?term=racism%20&dataviz=false&aggs=false&subreddits=braincels&searchtype=posts&search=true&start=0&end=1583051366&size=100</ref><ref>http://redditsearch.io/?term=alt-right&dataviz=false&aggs=false&subreddits=braincels&searchtype=posts&search=true&start=0&end=1583051401&size=100</ref> The lack of racism on Braincels was largely due to continuous bans of alt-right users, presumably mainly to prevent the entire subreddit from being banned but also because the mods were ethnics (one was a indian stalinist). | The person who first formalized the blackpill, [[Paragon]], believed in radical [[biological essentialism]], a prominent [[alt-right]] view. Paragon is white, but not knowingly a white nationalist or member of the alt-right as a collective and is thought to be currently living in the Phillipines. The first two blackpill boards anywhere were either founded or discussion-seeded by a self-described "neo-reactionary", i.e. [[Caamib]]. Reddit made it clear they would not tolerate that style of incel discussion and so Braincels was populated next. Braincels was a previously dormant sub founded by a non-racist anarcho-communist named [[AnathematicAnarchist]]. The forum espoused a unique version of the blackpill and were not particularly traditionalist or alt-right (outside of slut-shaming). Braincels actively sought to minimize racism in their Reddit community and before [[AnathematicAnarchist]] committed suicide, were largely hostile to the [[alt-right]].<ref>http://redditsearch.io/?term=racism%20&dataviz=false&aggs=false&subreddits=braincels&searchtype=posts&search=true&start=0&end=1583051366&size=100</ref><ref>http://redditsearch.io/?term=alt-right&dataviz=false&aggs=false&subreddits=braincels&searchtype=posts&search=true&start=0&end=1583051401&size=100</ref> The lack of racism on Braincels was largely due to continuous bans of alt-right users, presumably mainly to prevent the entire subreddit from being banned but also because the mods were ethnics (one was a indian stalinist). | ||
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Part of the reason this clash never resolves may be due to the fact that one of the admins of incels.co (Master) is both black and seemingly on the Breitbart-side of the alt-right, and he also does not enforce his worldview except occasionally and through mod and pinned post preferences. In general he is not particularly zealous in his political opinions, and can be best thought as picking up a [[4chan]] derived political atmosphere sympathetically rather than engineering it. Alt-right sentiment also bleeds into purplepill spaces. [[Incelistan.net]], a purplepill external forum, has hundreds of registered users, but their most active poster in early 2020 is an [[alt-right]] half-Jew, while their admin is not [[alt-right]]. Alt-righters tend to be very vocal. | Part of the reason this clash never resolves may be due to the fact that one of the admins of incels.co (Master) is both black and seemingly on the Breitbart-side of the alt-right, and he also does not enforce his worldview except occasionally and through mod and pinned post preferences. In general he is not particularly zealous in his political opinions, and can be best thought as picking up a [[4chan]] derived political atmosphere sympathetically rather than engineering it. Alt-right sentiment also bleeds into purplepill spaces. [[Incelistan.net]], a purplepill external forum, has hundreds of registered users, but their most active poster in early 2020 is an [[alt-right]] half-Jew, while their admin is not [[alt-right]]. Alt-righters tend to be very vocal. | ||
=== Traditionalism === | ===Traditionalism=== | ||
Reddit's incel boards were mostly apolitical and the term "blackpill" mostly meant "it's all about looks and hence [[it's over]]". | Reddit's incel boards were mostly apolitical and the term "blackpill" mostly meant "it's all about looks and hence [[it's over]]". | ||
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Non-tradcon blackpillers tend to be anti-[[tradcon]]. | Non-tradcon blackpillers tend to be anti-[[tradcon]]. | ||
=== Blackpill science === | ===Blackpill science=== | ||
Largely separate from other incel or blackpill communities, people have begun to share and read scientific studies on dating and human sexual behavior on [https://old.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience /r/BlackPillScience], which later lead to the creation of the [[Scientific Blackpill]] article by incels.co janitor RageAgainstTheTDL, as well as wiki writers Altmark22 and Bibipi. | Largely separate from other incel or blackpill communities, people have begun to share and read scientific studies on dating and human sexual behavior on [https://old.reddit.com/r/BlackPillScience /r/BlackPillScience], which later lead to the creation of the [[Scientific Blackpill]] article by incels.co janitor RageAgainstTheTDL, as well as wiki writers Altmark22 and Bibipi. | ||
== Themes == | ==Themes== | ||
Typical themes, memes and shitposts in blackpill communities include the following: | Typical themes, memes and shitposts in blackpill communities include the following: | ||
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'''Nature arguments''' | '''Nature arguments''' | ||
* Nothing can change female sexual desire ([[biological essentialism]]) | *Nothing can change female sexual desire ([[biological essentialism]]) | ||
* Dating success is determined by things men cannot easily improve on such as [[LMS|looks, money, status]], [[heightpill|physical stature]], race, [[IQ]] and [[neurotypical]]ity, rather than [[personality]] | *Dating success is determined by things men cannot easily improve on such as [[LMS|looks, money, status]], [[heightpill|physical stature]], race, [[IQ]] and [[neurotypical]]ity, rather than [[personality]] | ||
* Most incels are hopeless without cosmetic surgery | *Most incels are hopeless without cosmetic surgery | ||
* Everyone's [[sexual market value]] is mostly or entirely genetically determined | *Everyone's [[sexual market value]] is mostly or entirely genetically determined | ||
* That men's genetic quality is accurately determined by women at large (good genes hypothesis), and that this applies today | *That men's genetic quality is accurately determined by women at large (good genes hypothesis), and that this applies today | ||
'''Women bad''' | '''Women bad''' | ||
* Women are only capable of true love in case of [[dominance hierarchy|high status]] men | *Women are only capable of true love in case of [[dominance hierarchy|high status]] men | ||
* Women reject [[hypergamy|80%]] of the male population | *Women reject [[hypergamy|80%]] of the male population | ||
* Women mostly have a horrible [[personality|character]], if any | *Women mostly have a horrible [[personality|character]], if any | ||
* Women are incapable of [[romance]] and love | *Women are incapable of [[romance]] and love | ||
* Women only love men's [[hypergamy|resources]] | *Women only love men's [[hypergamy|resources]] | ||
* Women's [[fake depression|depression]] and loneliness are at best self-inflicted, at worst a means of getting attention | *Women's [[fake depression|depression]] and loneliness are at best self-inflicted, at worst a means of getting attention | ||
* Women behave like [[neoteny|children]] | *Women behave like [[neoteny|children]] | ||
* Women exhibit a [[dual mating]] strategy ([[betabuxx]]) | *Women exhibit a [[dual mating]] strategy ([[betabuxx]]) | ||
* Women have a passive, transactional and opportunistic love style | *Women have a passive, transactional and opportunistic love style | ||
* Women are [[female solipsism|solipsistic]] because men want to fuck them | *Women are [[female solipsism|solipsistic]] because men want to fuck them | ||
* Women are shallow about the [[looks]] of men and especially about looks of other women | *Women are shallow about the [[looks]] of men and especially about looks of other women | ||
* Women's sexuality is stuck in a more [[Life history|r-selected]] past as they have been subject to [[reproductive success|less]] selection pressure | *Women's sexuality is stuck in a more [[Life history|r-selected]] past as they have been subject to [[reproductive success|less]] selection pressure | ||
'''Society''' | '''Society''' | ||
* Men need sexual intimacy and [[romance|romantic]] intimacy | *Men need sexual intimacy and [[romance|romantic]] intimacy | ||
* [[Adverse effects of inceldom|Inceldom is harmful]] | *[[Adverse effects of inceldom|Inceldom is harmful]] | ||
* Lack of income advantage for men reduces them to their looks | *Lack of income advantage for men reduces them to their looks | ||
* [[Polygamy]] in general is bad and always unworkable on a community level | *[[Polygamy]] in general is bad and always unworkable on a community level | ||
* Eliminating traditional gender roles necessarily destabilizes society through demotivated males | *Eliminating traditional gender roles necessarily destabilizes society through demotivated males | ||
* The [[patriarchy]] would solve or mitigate inceldom | *The [[patriarchy]] would solve or mitigate inceldom | ||
* Wife sharing is pathetic and necessarily chaotic, unworkable and/or immoral | *Wife sharing is pathetic and necessarily chaotic, unworkable and/or immoral | ||
* Religions were right about women | *Religions were right about women | ||
* Rich men are often merely [[betabux|betabuxed]] | *Rich men are often merely [[betabux|betabuxed]] | ||
* Women are compatible with enforced monogamy as they naturally fantasize about [[rape|sexual coercion]] | *Women are compatible with enforced monogamy as they naturally fantasize about [[rape|sexual coercion]] | ||
* [[Rape|Sexual coercion]] is natural part of human sexuality | *[[Rape|Sexual coercion]] is natural part of human sexuality | ||
* Revoking women's right to vote would be good | *Revoking women's right to vote would be good | ||
Many of these themes can be found in incel vocabulary and memes. Looks and status being necessary for men, but unevenly distributed, gives rise to beta and alpha males, [[Virgin]] vs [[Chad]]. Chad represents women's tendency to date up (hypergamy) and to prefer dominant men. The higher sex drive and more active love style in men gives rise to [[Orbiting|beta orbiting]]. For women, [[Becky]] vs [[Stacy]] represent women's intra-sexual competition in looks. | Many of these themes can be found in incel vocabulary and memes. Looks and status being necessary for men, but unevenly distributed, gives rise to beta and alpha males, [[Virgin]] vs [[Chad]]. Chad represents women's tendency to date up (hypergamy) and to prefer dominant men. The higher sex drive and more active love style in men gives rise to [[Orbiting|beta orbiting]]. For women, [[Becky]] vs [[Stacy]] represent women's intra-sexual competition in looks. | ||
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The blackpill is a reaction against the other manospherian philosophy, the [[redpill]]. Redpillers and blackpillers share some beliefs, but redpillers believe men can [[Work on Yourself|improve]] their dating situation through various [[PUA|social manipulation]] tricks and [[bodybuilding]] (internal [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locus_of_control locus of control]). The blackpill is also a reaction against [[social justice]] movements, which claim that society can determine human desire, and humans are not bound to their genetics. Blackpillers instead believe romantic success without 'tying women down' will always be mostly genetically predetermined (mostly only controlled through evolutionary time, or eugenics, or efforts to 'cheat' such, such as plastic surgery). | The blackpill is a reaction against the other manospherian philosophy, the [[redpill]]. Redpillers and blackpillers share some beliefs, but redpillers believe men can [[Work on Yourself|improve]] their dating situation through various [[PUA|social manipulation]] tricks and [[bodybuilding]] (internal [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locus_of_control locus of control]). The blackpill is also a reaction against [[social justice]] movements, which claim that society can determine human desire, and humans are not bound to their genetics. Blackpillers instead believe romantic success without 'tying women down' will always be mostly genetically predetermined (mostly only controlled through evolutionary time, or eugenics, or efforts to 'cheat' such, such as plastic surgery). | ||
== Proposed solutions == | ==Proposed solutions== | ||
Believers in the blackpill have a wide range of opinions about what needs or can be done about the systemic issues outlined above: | Believers in the blackpill have a wide range of opinions about what needs or can be done about the systemic issues outlined above: | ||
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== Criticism == | ==Criticism== | ||
<ul><li> | <ul><li> | ||
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== Meme gallery == | ==Meme gallery== | ||
{{see_also|[[It's over]], [[LDAR]] and [[COPE or ROPE]]}} | {{see_also|[[It's over]], [[LDAR]] and [[COPE or ROPE]]}} | ||
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{{reflist}} | {{reflist}} | ||
== See Also == | ==See Also== | ||
<div class="mw-references-wrap mw-references-columns"> | <div class="mw-references-wrap mw-references-columns"> | ||
* [[Pill jargon]] | *[[Pill jargon]] | ||
* [[Biological essentialism]] | *[[Biological essentialism]] | ||
* [[HeedandSucceed]] | *[[HeedandSucceed]] | ||
* [[COPE or ROPE]] | *[[COPE or ROPE]] | ||
* [[Supply side sexual economics]] | *[[Supply side sexual economics]] | ||
* [[Lookism]] | *[[Lookism]] | ||
* [[Racepill]] | *[[Racepill]] | ||
* [[Dickpill]] | *[[Dickpill]] | ||
* [[Heightpill]] | *[[Heightpill]] | ||
* [[Juggernaut law]] | *[[Juggernaut law]] | ||
* [[Redpill]] | *[[Redpill]] | ||
* [[Whitepill]] | *[[Whitepill]] | ||
* [[Bluepill]] | *[[Bluepill]] | ||
</div> | </div> | ||