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[[File:Attractiveness ratings by men and women (dataclysm).png|400px|thumb|right|Women rate 80% of men below medium, while men rate women on a more even bell curve distribution (Rudder, 2014). [[Scientific Blackpill#Mental_disorders_significantly_reduce_male_fertility.2C_substantially_more_than_they_do_for_women|More information]].]]
[[File:Attractiveness ratings by men and women (dataclysm).png|400px|thumb|right|Women rate 80% of men below medium, while men rate women on a more even bell curve distribution (Rudder, 2014). [[Scientific Blackpill#Mental_disorders_significantly_reduce_male_fertility.2C_substantially_more_than_they_do_for_women|More information]].]]
[[File:Fertility_Ratios.png|400px|thumb|right|The fertility ratio is the ratio of the number of offspring each group produced compared to healthy people. [[Scientific Blackpill#Women_rate_80.25_of_men_as_.22below_average.22.2C_while_men_rate_women_on_a_bell_curve|More information]].]]
[[File:Fertility_Ratios.png|400px|thumb|right|The fertility ratio is the ratio of the number of offspring each group produced compared to healthy people. [[Scientific Blackpill#Women_rate_80.25_of_men_as_.22below_average.22.2C_while_men_rate_women_on_a_bell_curve|More information]].]]
Ratings of physical attractiveness predict romantic interest to the same extent in women and men as a large meta study (N = 29,414) concluded.<ref>https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2013-12483-001</ref>  
Ratings of physical attractiveness predict romantic interest to the same extent in women and men as a large meta study (N = 29,414) concluded.<ref>https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2013-12483-001</ref>  
What is more, women place a minimum threshold of physical attractiveness on potential mates before they are willing to consider anything else about them.<ref>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-017-0092-x</ref>  Moreover, women lie about the importance of physical attractiveness.<ref>https://www.livescience.com/58607-mens-looks-may-matter-more-than-personality.html</ref> Women also rate looks more harshly than men. They rate 80% of men as below [[Decile|5/10]] with a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skew_normal_distribution skewed distribution] both in online dating and non-online settings, whereas men rate women [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution normally].<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_rate_80.25_of_men_as_.22below_average.22.2C_while_men_rate_women_on_a_bell_curve</ref>
What is more, women appear to place a minimum threshold of physical attractiveness on potential mates before they are willing to consider anything else about them.<ref>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-017-0092-x</ref>  Moreover, women lie about the importance of physical attractiveness.<ref>https://www.livescience.com/58607-mens-looks-may-matter-more-than-personality.html</ref> Women also rate looks more harshly than men. They rate 80% of men as below [[Decile|5/10]] with a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skew_normal_distribution skewed distribution] both in online dating and non-online settings, whereas men rate women [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution normally].<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_rate_80.25_of_men_as_.22below_average.22.2C_while_men_rate_women_on_a_bell_curve</ref>
The common objection to women being shallow about looks in online dating is that in real life women would care about personality and that one could easily make up for bad looks with a good personality. Sadly, various studies showed looks are the only factor to predict initial romantic interest,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Looks_are_most_important_to_women_in_blind_dating</ref><ref>https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2005-11095-001</ref>
The common objection to women being shallow about looks in online dating is that in real life women would care about personality and that one could easily make up for bad looks with a good personality. Sadly, various studies showed looks are the only factor to predict initial romantic interest,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Looks_are_most_important_to_women_in_blind_dating</ref><ref>https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2005-11095-001</ref>
and they are only slightly less important in long-term dating.<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22468419</ref>
and they are only slightly less important in long-term dating.<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22468419</ref>
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and the less likely they would prefer a condom,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_are_less_likely_to_use_a_condom_with_a_more_attractive_male_partner</ref> providing evidence for the [[sexy son hypothesis]].
and the less likely they would prefer a condom,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_are_less_likely_to_use_a_condom_with_a_more_attractive_male_partner</ref> providing evidence for the [[sexy son hypothesis]].


The misconception that women would not care about looks may stem from political correctness as the Norwegian sexologist [[Kristin Spitznogle]] suggested, from the ''[[women-are-wonderful effect]]'',<ref name="ref92">https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1111/j.1471-6402.1991.tb00792.x</ref> or from the fact that [[Scientific Blackpill#|men prefer young and fertile women]] and youth is associated with beauty.  
The misconception that women would not care about looks may stem from political correctness as the Norwegian sexologist [[Kristin Spitznogle]] suggested. It may also stem from the ''[[women-are-wonderful effect]]''<ref name="ref92">https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1111/j.1471-6402.1991.tb00792.x</ref> in that people are less likely to ascribe negative attributes such as shallowness to women. It may also result from the fact that [[Scientific Blackpill#|men prefer young and fertile women]] and youth is associated with beauty.  
The fact that some women may date down in looks in order to secure a proficient [[betabuxx|provider]] male may also play a role in this perception, as well as apparent (to outside observers) mismatches in looks in relationships that may be caused by the variability in preferences for looks that are often found when those rated are clustered around the mean physical attractiveness level of the population.
Some attractive women also date down in looks when settling for a proficient [[betabuxx|provider]] male, e.g. a physically unattractive [[sugar daddy]].
 
Further, it requires a ''much higher'' level of looks for women to copulate with a complete stranger [[sexy son hypothesis|only because of his looks]] than vice-versa, so this simply happens rarely. The notion that women (should) care less about looks, may also be a remnant of monogamy norms, forcing women to marry men regardless of their looks, or of individualistic norms, encouraging people to value inner values over superficiality.
It also requires a ''much higher'' level of looks for women to copulate with a complete stranger [[sexy son hypothesis|only because of his looks]] than vice-versa, so this simply happens rarely. It may also be a remnant of monogamy norms, forcing women to marry men regardless of their looks.
Another reason may be that women compete much more in terms of looks and gossiping about one another's looks,<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill_(Supplemental)#Women_gossip_significantly_more_about_physical_appearance_then_men</ref>
 
which may explain why men seem to be much worse at accurately judging their own looks.<ref>http://doi.org/10.2307/3033724</ref>
That being said about the importance of looks, there exists some anecdotal evidence that many incels are not particularly ugly, with some even being physically attractive. There may be a selection bias here insofar as only the better looking incels are expected to expose themself to public scrutiny by posting images of themselves on the internet.<ref name="ref159">https://incels.wiki/w/Demographics_of_inceldom#Germany</ref> Looks do not seem to matter as much as many incels claim (e.g. unattractiveness only lowers the chances of marriage for ugly men by 15%), but they do matter to some extent and good looks make life easier and open doors.
[[Feminism|Feminists]] may construe women's excessive [[intrasexual competition]] in looks as imposed by the patriarchy as a result of men strongly caring about looks, when in truth both men and women care about looks,<ref name="8020">https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_rate_80.25_of_men_as_.22below_average.22.2C_while_men_rate_women_on_a_bell_curve</ref> but women have an extra incentive to conspicuously advertise themselves in order to attract high status men, having a more [[sex drive#Female_passivity|passive sexuality]] all around. This may also explain women's harsher ratings resulting from an intuition to avoid initiating romance and giving men complements.<ref name="8020"></ref> Initiation would make it more difficult to reject a male as the initiator bears more responsibility.
 
In a study of Reddit users answering why they are single (not necessarily incels) on AskReddit, most answered they were physically unattractive, with about half as many mentioning obesity (see [[causes of inceldom]]).<ref>https://doi.org/10.1007/s40806-018-0163-7</ref> Looks were also after shyness (i.e. [[dominance hierarchy|low status]]), mentioned as the second common barrier in the [[Donnelly study]] with 47% of virgins and 56% of singles mentioning this factor, compared to only 9% of partnered people.


Men seem to be much worse at accurately judging their own looks,<ref>http://doi.org/10.2307/3033724</ref> which may be a result of women competing much more in terms of looks and gossiping about one another's looks. [[Feminism|Feminists]] may construe this behavior as imposed by the patriarchy as a result of men strongly caring about looks, when in truth both men and women care about looks<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Women_rate_80.25_of_men_as_.22below_average.22.2C_while_men_rate_women_on_a_bell_curve</ref>, but women have extra incentive to conspicuously advertise themselves to attract a high status man, having a more [[sex drive#Female_passivity|passive sexuality]] all around. This may also explain women's harsher ratings resulting from an intuition to avoid initiating romance and giving men complements. Initiation would make it more difficult to reject a male as the initiator bears more responsibility.
That being said about the importance of looks, there exists some anecdotal evidence that many incels are not particularly ugly, with some even being physically attractive. There may be a selection bias here insofar as only the better looking incels are expected to expose themself to public scrutiny by posting images of themselves on the internet.<ref name="ref159">https://incels.wiki/w/Demographics_of_inceldom#Germany</ref> Looks do not seem to matter as much as many incels claim (e.g. unattractiveness only lowers the chances of marriage for ugly men by 15%), but they do matter to some extent and good looks make life easier and open doors.
In a study of Reddit users answering why they are single (not necessarily incels) on AskReddit, most answered they were physically unattractive, with about half as many mentioning obesity (see [[causes of inceldom]]).<ref>https://doi.org/10.1007/s40806-018-0163-7</ref> Looks were also after shyness (i.e. [[dominance hierarchy|low status]]), mentioned as the second common barrier in the [[Donnelly study]] with 47% of virgins and 56% of singles mentioning this factor, compared to only 9% of partnered people, however with a small sample size.


== Matching hypothesis ==
== Matching hypothesis ==
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