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The '''blackpill''' is a philosophy that claims society is too [[lookism|shallow]] and [[hypergamy|hypergamous]], and that without enforcing monogamy<ref name="ref188">https://incels.co/threads/me-52m-just-found-out-at-least-4-of-my-5-children-33f-30f-28m-24f-14f-are-not-mine-wife-51f-wont-say-anything.115218/page-3#post-2959506</ref><ref name="ref189">https://incels.co/threads/germany-1950-was-an-incel-wet-dream.147144/#post-3085283</ref><ref name="ref190">https://incels.co/threads/for-normies-inceltears-modern-day-expressions-of-female-sexuality-are-cringe-just-posturing-trying-to-emulate-male-sexuality-penis-envy.145710/#post-3061135</ref> and reinstating [[tradcon|traditional gender roles]],<ref name="ref186">https://incels.co/threads/if-men-cant-be-protectors-providers-theyll-be-destroyers-deprivers.140942/</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdHqzr4DyIs</ref> there is no hope for men that women deem unattractive. Adherents often tell each other they have subhuman genetics, and they often tell each other to lay in bed all day ([[LDAR]]) or commit suicide ([[rope]]). 
The '''blackpill''' claims that society is too [[lookism|shallow]] and [[hypergamy|hypergamous]], and that without enforcing monogamy<ref name="ref188">https://incels.co/threads/me-52m-just-found-out-at-least-4-of-my-5-children-33f-30f-28m-24f-14f-are-not-mine-wife-51f-wont-say-anything.115218/page-3#post-2959506</ref><ref name="ref189">https://incels.co/threads/germany-1950-was-an-incel-wet-dream.147144/#post-3085283</ref><ref name="ref190">https://incels.co/threads/for-normies-inceltears-modern-day-expressions-of-female-sexuality-are-cringe-just-posturing-trying-to-emulate-male-sexuality-penis-envy.145710/#post-3061135</ref> and reinstating [[tradcon|traditional gender roles]],<ref name="ref186">https://incels.co/threads/if-men-cant-be-protectors-providers-theyll-be-destroyers-deprivers.140942/</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdHqzr4DyIs</ref> there is no hope for men that women deem unattractive.


Those who believe in the concept and use the term are most notably overlapping groups of [[alt-right]]ers, postmodern performance art types, and [[tradcon|traditional conservatives]]. "Spreading the blackpill" means using true and cherrypicked studies to evangelize others to "swallow" the blackpill narrative.  Shaming tactics are used on those who do not espouse the blackpill narrative, sometimes through attacking a man's confidence in his masculinity (eg "cuck", "soyboy"), through social ostrasization by banning non-blackpilled members from boards marketed in more general terms, or through simple tribal arguments (eg "if you believe x then you're not ''one of us''").  The only thing that makes the blackpill not a traditional death cult is it's lack of top-down philosophical teachings or zealous leaders.  In fact, the admin of the largest blackpill forum instead personally advocates the [[whitepill]], which does not advocate suicide for incels in a blanket manner.
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Blackpillers are somewhat in opposition to the [[redpill]] philosophy.
Blackpillers are somewhat in opposition to the [[redpill]] philosophy.
Redpillers believe in a collection of [[PUA|social manipulation]] and '[[Work on Yourself|self-improvement]]' tricks.
Redpillers believe in a collection of [[PUA|social manipulation]] and '[[Work on Yourself|self-improvement]]' tricks.
Blackpillers reject especially the long-term effectiveness of these tricks.
Blackpillers reject especially the long-term effectiveness of these tricks.
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Not all incels are blackpillers and [[noncel blackpiller|not all blackpillers are incels]].  The media have often falsely conflated blackpiller incels with all incels.  More generally, a blackpill is any uncomfortable truth associated with extreme negativity/pessimism/fatalism, etc.
Not all incels are blackpillers and [[noncel blackpiller|not all blackpillers are incels]].  The media have often falsely conflated blackpiller incels with all incels.  More generally, a blackpill is any uncomfortable truth associated with extreme negativity/pessimism/fatalism, etc.
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Counter arguments to this include that conservatives do have more sex,<ref>https://www.dailywire.com/news/study-conservatives-have-better-sex-lives-liberals-amanda-prestigiacomo</ref> even though even many conservatives are gender progressive nowadays. Japan is also one of the least religious countries<ref>https://www.pewforum.org/2018/06/13/how-religious-commitment-varies-by-country-among-people-of-all-ages/</ref> and has a peculiar history regarding their sexual modesty.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_nudity#Japan</ref> Historically, there have also been more incels due to harsher ecologies, so Medieval Europe and 19th century U.S. may not be a good comparison.</p>
Counter arguments to this include that conservatives do have more sex,<ref>https://www.dailywire.com/news/study-conservatives-have-better-sex-lives-liberals-amanda-prestigiacomo</ref> even though even many conservatives are gender progressive nowadays. Japan is also one of the least religious countries<ref>https://www.pewforum.org/2018/06/13/how-religious-commitment-varies-by-country-among-people-of-all-ages/</ref> and has a peculiar history regarding their sexual modesty.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_nudity#Japan</ref> Historically, there have also been more incels due to harsher ecologies, so Medieval Europe and 19th century U.S. may not be a good comparison.</p>
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'''Furthering the welfare state rather reducing it''':  Some blackpillers hold that poverty is a better solution to inceldom than mass abundance.<ref name="ref208">https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/she-felt-unloved/#comment-22914</ref><ref>Roger Devlin said this somewhere too</ref> To the contrary, child-rearing could instead be more subsidized to reduce female selection based on income.  Blackpillers respond that women would then turn to looks and status.  State welfare advocates also tend to promote broad societal egalitarianism (Jante Law eg), a sort of status leveler that is rumored to reduce intrasexual competition.  However, they do not usually put forth a plan on how to reduce [[sexual dimorphism]] in the face of globalization. And in 2019 they tend to favor open-borders and liberal internet policy, which can increase sexual dimorphism in the dating sphere.
'''Furthering the welfare state rather reducing it''':  Some blackpillers hold that poverty is a better solution to inceldom than mass abundance.<ref name="ref208">https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/she-felt-unloved/#comment-22914</ref><ref>Roger Devlin said this somewhere too</ref> To the contrary, child-rearing could instead be more subsidized to reduce female selection based on income.  Blackpillers respond that women would then turn to looks and status.  State welfare advocates also tend to promote broad societal egalitarianism (Jante Law eg), a sort of status leveler that is rumored to reduce intrasexual competition.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGn0lFlEV3A</ref> However, they do not usually put forth a plan on how to reduce [[sexual dimorphism]] in the face of globalization. And in 2019 they tend to favor open-borders and liberal internet policy, which can increase sexual dimorphism in the dating sphere.
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'''Cult & unhealthy pessimism''': Blackpill-spaces are criticised as cultish, quasi-religious and for encouraging unhealthy, pessimistic behaviors among members of the spaces, sometimes inciting violence.<ref>https://ablogaboutincels.com/2019/11/02/the-blackpill-is-something-like-a-cult-or-a-religion/</ref>
'''Cult & unhealthy pessimism''': Blackpill-spaces are criticised as cultish, quasi-religious and for encouraging unhealthy, pessimistic behaviors among members of the spaces, sometimes inciting violence.<ref>https://ablogaboutincels.com/2019/11/02/the-blackpill-is-something-like-a-cult-or-a-religion/</ref>
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