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:It is impossible to spin the blackpill as something that is a scientific discipline rather than a claim with a cultish exterior, in an honest manner. People police the boundaries of the blackpill in ways they do not with 'incel'. Social ostrasization tactics, extreme shaming tactics (such as bullying), and suicide advocacy are universal to blackpill spaces since the term was adopted by any community, but the same cannot be said about the term 'incel' in incel spaces. 'incel' has an academic sociological foundation and a long history of a philosophically neutral definition that extends into academia, literature etc. If we were to use some prior time to use as an anchor as a definition to the blackpill, it's prior anchor was it's original definition of radical biological essentialism, which negates any personal methods of 'ascending' (including plastic surgery) as articulated by Paragon, not just [[lookism]]. And that method of analyzing the blackpill would not look like anything you or I have put forward for a lede. I disagree the blackpill is a political movement, which usually involves some sort of meaningful advocacy outside echo chambers. It seems to be mainly a claim with a pseudo religious cult surrounding it. hardcore [[Lookism]] overlaps but is a separate topic. [[Traditional conservatism]] also overlaps but is separate topic. | :It is impossible to spin the blackpill as something that is a scientific discipline rather than a claim with a cultish exterior, in an honest manner. People police the boundaries of the blackpill in ways they do not with 'incel'. Social ostrasization tactics, extreme shaming tactics (such as bullying), and suicide advocacy are universal to blackpill spaces since the term was adopted by any community, but the same cannot be said about the term 'incel' in incel spaces. 'incel' has an academic sociological foundation and a long history of a philosophically neutral definition that extends into academia, literature etc. If we were to use some prior time to use as an anchor as a definition to the blackpill, it's prior anchor was it's original definition of radical biological essentialism, which negates any personal methods of 'ascending' (including plastic surgery) as articulated by Paragon, not just [[lookism]]. And that method of analyzing the blackpill would not look like anything you or I have put forward for a lede. I disagree the blackpill is a political movement, which usually involves some sort of meaningful advocacy outside echo chambers. It seems to be mainly a claim with a pseudo religious cult surrounding it. hardcore [[Lookism]] overlaps but is a separate topic. [[Traditional conservatism]] also overlaps but is separate topic. | ||
:Also, This article has served as place for you to paint the blackpill as something that has scientific rigor, which is not what this article is about, but you can do whatever you want on the scientific blackpill page. You have written 90% of the content on the blackpill page, expanding it enormously in way that makes it seem like the wiki is a blackpill wiki rather than an incel wiki. I think you've put in enough of your opinion here and I'm done seeing this page turn into this monolith, or a political advocacy page that is pill-biased. Limerencel was just drive-by editing to make the lede more congruent with the rest of the page, which is mostly a boring repetition of facts to make the blackpill | :Also, This article has served as place for you to paint the blackpill as something that has scientific rigor, which is not what this article is about, but you can do whatever you want on the scientific blackpill page. You have written 90% of the content on the blackpill page, expanding it enormously in way that makes it seem like the wiki is a blackpill wiki rather than an incel wiki. I think you've put in enough of your opinion here and I'm done seeing this page turn into this monolith, or a political advocacy page that is pill-biased. Limerencel was just drive-by editing to make the lede more congruent with the rest of the page, which is mostly a boring repetition of facts to make the blackpill seem like a scientific discipline, which it is not. [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 13:15, 29 February 2020 (UTC)s | ||