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I vote for restoring the slim lede we had before. Also please stop protecting pages and use talk pages instead. [[User:Limerencel]] should have done so before rewriting the entire lede too. [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 04:38, 29 February 2020 (UTC) | I vote for restoring the slim lede we had before. Also please stop protecting pages and use talk pages instead. [[User:Limerencel]] should have done so before rewriting the entire lede too. [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 04:38, 29 February 2020 (UTC) | ||
:It is impossible to spin the blackpill as healthy or some politically-neutral philosophy without ignoring that people police it's boundaries in ways they do not with 'incel'. I disagree it's a political movement, which usually involves some sort of meaningful advocacy outside echo chambers. It seems to be mainly a claim with a pseudo religious cult surrounding it. Regardless of whatever the blackpill meant in early 2017, hardcore [[Lookism]] overlaps but is a separate topic. [[Traditional conservatism]] also overlaps but is separate topic. [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 13:15, 29 February 2020 (UTC) | :It is impossible to spin the blackpill as healthy or some politically-neutral philosophy without ignoring that people police it's boundaries in ways they do not with 'incel'. 'incel' has an academic sociological foundation and a definition that extends into academia. The blackpill started as a belief in radical biological essentialism, and continues to evolve in meaning. I disagree it's a political movement, which usually involves some sort of meaningful advocacy outside echo chambers. It seems to be mainly a claim with a pseudo religious cult surrounding it. Regardless of whatever the blackpill meant in early 2017, hardcore [[Lookism]] overlaps but is a separate topic. [[Traditional conservatism]] also overlaps but is separate topic. [[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 13:15, 29 February 2020 (UTC) |