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In it Strauss describes game as boldness, direct questions, speech patterns, standing out, smiling, awareness of surroundings, not using questions, love, and being able to take compliments.<ref>https://calvinrosser.com/notes/the-game-neil-strauss/</ref>
In it Strauss describes game as boldness, direct questions, speech patterns, standing out, smiling, awareness of surroundings, not using questions, love, and being able to take compliments.<ref>https://calvinrosser.com/notes/the-game-neil-strauss/</ref>
==RSD Nation==
RSD Nation, perhaps the largest PUA group in history, argued that look and money did not matter in dating.  RSD Nation defined, "natural game", as, "how you expect the world to respond to you".<ref>https://archive.org/stream/pdfy-ExC5kZNMZrSkYanb/RSD-National-Blueprint-Decoded-NOTES_djvu.txt</ref>  This boils down to thinking positively about yourself to make others do the same.


== Ineffectiveness ==
== Ineffectiveness ==
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Incels argue that 'game' is mostly irrelevant in the modern dating sphere.  This may be because the modern dating sphere emphasizes speed and shallow interactions.  Only physical attractiveness predicts initial romantic interest in blind dating and strongly so. This suggests game is ineffective in face-to-face dating settings like blind dating or online dating.<ref>https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fh0021188</ref>  When OkCupid asked users to rate looks and personality separately, users did not distinguish between the two.<ref>https://archive.li/QNCbf</ref>  To confirm their hypothesis that pictures were what people were rating as good personality, Okcupid followed up with another internal study which showed that online bio text accounts for less than 10% of what users think of you.<ref>https://archive.li/QNCbf</ref>   
Incels argue that 'game' is mostly irrelevant in the modern dating sphere.  This may be because the modern dating sphere emphasizes speed and shallow interactions.  Only physical attractiveness predicts initial romantic interest in blind dating and strongly so. This suggests game is ineffective in face-to-face dating settings like blind dating or online dating.<ref>https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fh0021188</ref>  When OkCupid asked users to rate looks and personality separately, users did not distinguish between the two.<ref>https://archive.li/QNCbf</ref>  To confirm their hypothesis that pictures were what people were rating as good personality, Okcupid followed up with another internal study which showed that online bio text accounts for less than 10% of what users think of you.<ref>https://archive.li/QNCbf</ref>   


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==Studies on non-lookist dating strategies==
== Blind dating ==
=== Blind dating ===


Only physical attractiveness predicts initial romantic interest in blind dating and strongly so. This suggests game is ineffective in face-to-face dating settings like blind dating or online dating.<ref>https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fh0021188</ref>
Only physical attractiveness predicts initial romantic interest in blind dating and strongly so. This suggests game is ineffective in face-to-face dating settings like blind dating or online dating.<ref>https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fh0021188</ref>
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The only personality traits that seem to correlate with sexual success are the [[dark triad]] and [[neurotypical]]ity.{{citation needed}}
The only personality traits that seem to correlate with sexual success are the [[dark triad]] and [[neurotypical]]ity.{{citation needed}}


== Conversation game ==
=== Conversation game ===


A study claimed that humor was seen as a desirable long-term-partner trait in men by women, but only if the man is good looking.<ref>https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1475-6811.1998.tb00174.x</ref> A different study found self-deprecating humor by high-status presenters (but not low-status presenters) increased long-term attractiveness for both sexes.<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/147470490800600303</ref>
A study claimed that humor was seen as a desirable long-term-partner trait in men by women, but only if the man is good looking.<ref>https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1475-6811.1998.tb00174.x</ref> A different study found self-deprecating humor by high-status presenters (but not low-status presenters) increased long-term attractiveness for both sexes.<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/147470490800600303</ref>


== Music ==
=== Music ===


A couple studies suggested that ability to play the guitar seemed to be particularly attractive to women.<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0305735613482025</ref><ref>https://lebs.hbesj.org/index.php/lebs/article/view/66</ref> Heavy metal and rock music were correlated with more positive female evaluations of men than classical or avant-garde music.<ref>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00995420</ref><ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0747563213002641</ref>
A couple studies suggested that ability to play the guitar seemed to be particularly attractive to women.<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0305735613482025</ref><ref>https://lebs.hbesj.org/index.php/lebs/article/view/66</ref> Heavy metal and rock music were correlated with more positive female evaluations of men than classical or avant-garde music.<ref>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00995420</ref><ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0747563213002641</ref>


== Smells ==
=== Smells ===


A study done in 20011 showed that armpit odor pleasantness was the single attribute that consistently predicted attractiveness of nonverbal behavior.<ref>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-011-9803-8</ref> In laymen's terms the better smelling the mans armpits the more attractive, his gait, as well as any other nonverbal movement, and armpit smell is the most important factor of nonverbal attractiveness, probably by [[halo effect]]. One study found [[fashion|pine]] is an objectively, generally attractive smell.<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.2466/pms.100.1.135-141</ref> 3 studies found [[Pretty Boy|the smell of flowers]] to be sexually attractive to women.<ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224545.2012.683463</ref><ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224545.2012.683463</ref>
A study done in 20011 showed that armpit odor pleasantness was the single attribute that consistently predicted attractiveness of nonverbal behavior.<ref>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-011-9803-8</ref> In laymen's terms the better smelling the mans armpits the more attractive, his gait, as well as any other nonverbal movement, and armpit smell is the most important factor of nonverbal attractiveness, probably by [[halo effect]]. One study found [[fashion|pine]] is an objectively, generally attractive smell.<ref>https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.2466/pms.100.1.135-141</ref> 3 studies found [[Pretty Boy|the smell of flowers]] to be sexually attractive to women.<ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224545.2012.683463</ref><ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224545.2012.683463</ref>
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Another study where, two hundred twenty-nine subjects watched videotapes of men and women smoking or not smoking as part of a study on first impressions. The results indicated that (a) smoking models were perceived as more sexually active than nonsmokers regardless of the subjects' smoking status; (b) smoking female models were seen as less likable, less attractive, and less healthy than nonsmoking female models, whereas no such differences emerged between smoking and nonsmoking male models; and (c) although women reported no differences in their preference to engage in intimate behavior (e.g., petting, kissing) as a function of the male model's smoking status, men preferred to engage in such intimate behaviors more with nonsmoking females than with smoking females.<ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1207/s15324834basp1302_5</ref>
Another study where, two hundred twenty-nine subjects watched videotapes of men and women smoking or not smoking as part of a study on first impressions. The results indicated that (a) smoking models were perceived as more sexually active than nonsmokers regardless of the subjects' smoking status; (b) smoking female models were seen as less likable, less attractive, and less healthy than nonsmoking female models, whereas no such differences emerged between smoking and nonsmoking male models; and (c) although women reported no differences in their preference to engage in intimate behavior (e.g., petting, kissing) as a function of the male model's smoking status, men preferred to engage in such intimate behaviors more with nonsmoking females than with smoking females.<ref>https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1207/s15324834basp1302_5</ref>


== Status ==
=== Status ====


Displays of luxury, manipulated through brand labels on clothes, elicited different kinds of preferential treatment, which even resulted in financial benefits to people who engaged in conspicuous consumption.<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513810001455</ref>
Displays of luxury, manipulated through brand labels on clothes, elicited different kinds of preferential treatment, which even resulted in financial benefits to people who engaged in conspicuous consumption.<ref>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513810001455</ref>


=== Social media ===
==== Social media ====


Positive wall postings yielded higher safety assessments than negative statements by friends. Qualification was similarly affected;
Positive wall postings yielded higher safety assessments than negative statements by friends. Qualification was similarly affected;
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