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{{Quote|The rise in incel complaints is due to women gaining more purchase as financially and socially independent people. The days of needing a man, any man, to live any kind of decent life are long gone, leaving women to marry (in most cases) only if a man can prove his worth as a friend, lover and asset in her life.}}
{{Quote|The rise in incel complaints is due to women gaining more purchase as financially and socially independent people. The days of needing a man, any man, to live any kind of decent life are long gone, leaving women to marry (in most cases) only if a man can prove his worth as a friend, lover and asset in her life.}}


This is wrong.  Men still had to prove their worth in every patriarchy. In medeival times if you were ostracized you joined the 20% of people dying on the streets. In the 19th century, if your dad cockblocked you, you joined the 70% of men under 25 who weren't married and probably weren't having sex.
This is wrong.  Men still had to prove their worth in every patriarchy. This is touted by [[tradcon]]s as [[sexual sublimination]], as part of [[socialization]], [[chivalry]], and [[neoliberalism|'manning up'.  In other words, feminists are looking at tradconism now and start thinking it's this great new invention.  Now, it sucked then and it still sucks now.
 
Men always had to prove their "worth". In medieval times if you were ostracized you joined the 20% of people dying on the streets. In the 19th century, if your dad cockblocked you, you joined the 70% of men under 25 who weren't married and probably weren't having sex.
Incels became more vocal with 4chan culture and other not because inceldom is new, (in fact during patriarchy it was arguably worse). It became more vocal because of the increase of misandry, the commodification of sex (ie sex IS commodified, not incels misframing it), and the theoretical availability of safer sex.
Incels became more vocal with 4chan culture and other not because inceldom is new, (in fact during patriarchy it was arguably worse). It became more vocal because of the increase of misandry, the commodification of sex (ie sex IS commodified, not incels misframing it), and the theoretical availability of safer sex.
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