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==Criticism== | ==Criticism== | ||
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''' | <p>'''Traditionalism does not necessarily eliminate inceldom''':<ref>http://archive.is/dunAG</ref><ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20200118165232/https://ablogaboutincels.com/2020/01/18/debunking-the-tradcon-narrative-about-incel/</ref> In the 19th century, even though divorces were rare and traditional gender roles were strict, around 70% of U.S. men below age 25 were unmarried.<ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3002115/</ref> | ||
In Medieval patriarchy about 20% of the population was poor or destitute, preventing them from entering marriage contracts set by the male Lords.<ref>http://www.vlib.us/medieval/lectures/paupers.html</ref> There also seems to be no correlation between how relatively rigid gender roles are and how sexually dissatisfied a modern country is.<ref>https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228641949_A_Global_Survey_of_Sexual_Behaviours table 4</ref> For example, Japan is the least sexually dissatisfied nation, but it has relatively rigid gender roles<ref>https://hir.harvard.edu/gender-gap-marriage-and-birthrate-in-japan/</ref> for a developed country. | |||
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The Japanese government has invested at least 30 million dollars annually<ref>https://www.globaldatinginsights.com/news/japanese-government-is-set-to-pay-30m-into-dating-industry/</ref> into arranging monogamous relationships through arranged parties for young people<ref>https://www.sbs.com.au/guide/article/2018/09/25/japanese-government-sponsoring-parties-get-young-people-hooking</ref>, government controlled online matchmaking services,<ref>https://www.economist.com/asia/2019/10/03/japans-state-owned-version-of-tinder</ref> and government arranged "marriage-hunting" events<ref>https://money.cnn.com/2016/09/21/news/economy/japan-government-dating-services/index.html</ref> to little success. They have recently invested 18 billion dollars into childcare subsidies to spark fertility rates during 2017. One successful venture in the Japanese town of Nagicho that increased fertility rates was giving new Moms $2,785 in cash and giving the citizens numerous special welfare benefits.<ref>https://qz.com/1646740/japan-wants-to-raise-its-fertility-rate-with-new-perks/</ref> This shows that monogamous marriage may need to be extremely financially subsidized by the government rather than relying on gender roles in highly technological countries, if the country does not want to engage in universal [[forced marriage]]. Japan's gender inequality index (which measures life expectancy and labor/school outcomes, not cultural gender roles) is lower to that of the U.S. (0.099 vs 0.182).<ref>http://hdr.undp.org/en/countries/profiles/JPN</ref><ref>http://hdr.undp.org/en/countries/profiles/USA</ref> --> | |||
Japanese women are encouraged to work more female-centric jobs than in most countries and earn less than men more than in most developed countries including Sweden and the USA.<ref>https://www.oecd.org/japan/Gender2017-JPN-en.pdf</ref> | |||
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Counter arguments to this include that conservatives have more sex,<ref>https://www.dailywire.com/news/study-conservatives-have-better-sex-lives-liberals-amanda-prestigiacomo</ref> even though even many conservatives are gender progressive nowadays. Japan is also one of the least religious countries<ref>https://www.pewforum.org/2018/06/13/how-religious-commitment-varies-by-country-among-people-of-all-ages/</ref> and has a peculiar history regarding their sexual modesty.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_nudity#Japan</ref> Historically, there have also been more incels due to harsher ecologies, so Medieval Europe may not be a good comparison.</p> | |||
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'''Too much focus on looks''': | '''Too much focus on looks''': Correlations between looks, height, income and partner count are weaker than incels claim, and thus the blackpill hyperfocuses too much on looks. A counter argument may be that there may be a trend towards lookism that is not yet evident in older data e.g. due to the recent rise of online dating. | ||
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'''Too little focus on economics''': Economic causes of inceldom like wealth inequality and economic stagnation come too short. Costs of living increasing discourage family formation.<ref>https://ablogaboutincels.com/2019/12/21/expectations/</ref> Millennials have only a fraction of the worth babyboomers had at the same age. Many blackpillers only focus on hypergamy as an economic issue. | '''Too little focus on economics''': Economic causes of inceldom like wealth inequality and economic stagnation come too short. Costs of living increasing discourage family formation.<ref>https://ablogaboutincels.com/2019/12/21/expectations/</ref> Millennials have only a fraction of the worth babyboomers had at the same age. Many blackpillers only focus on hypergamy as an economic issue. | ||