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May seem like petty squabbling over semantics,  but a man that forgoes long-term committed relationships and engages in frequent casual sex is obviously not an incel by any definition of the term. Therefore, this qualifying statement is important,imo, unless you're seeking to fundamentally redefine the term 'incel'. [[User:Altmark22|Altmark22]] ([[User talk:Altmark22|talk]]) 19:40, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
May seem like petty squabbling over semantics,  but a man that forgoes long-term committed relationships and engages in frequent casual sex is obviously not an incel by any definition of the term. Therefore, this qualifying statement is important,imo, unless you're seeking to fundamentally redefine the term 'incel'. [[User:Altmark22|Altmark22]] ([[User talk:Altmark22|talk]]) 19:40, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
:For the same reason we reached a conclusion of 28% inceldom in America on the Demographics page, namely
* A study by Poortman and Liebroer that found that ''only roughly 4% of singles'' preferred their singlehood over being in a relationship.<ref>https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ssresearch.2010.03.012</ref>
* Only 1% of the population self-identify as asexual.<ref>https://health.usnews.com/health-news/health-wellness/articles/2015/05/04/asexuality-the-invisible-orientation</ref><ref>https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cluster=17133744500922136515&hl=en&as_sdt=0,5</ref>
* Sex is regarded as the most satisfying and joyous experience and ~70% of men report "sex is essential to feeling good about oneself".<ref>https://incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill#Sex_is_the_most_pleasurable.2C_joyous.2C_and_meaningful_human_experience</ref>
* Such reports are likely subject to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_desirability_bias social desirability bias], meaning men might not say they need sex to avoid violating [[sexual modesty]] norms and being perceived as shallow and sex-driven.
Those who prefer the more narrow definition of incel as 'without will' rather than 'without choice' would balk at this however.  We do use the wider definition of 'without choice' here simply because it is what was in the Donnelly Study and it eases conflict on a lot pages.[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 19:52, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
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