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No mass murderers have been users of incel forums. Neither [[4chan]] nor [[PUAhate]] have self-identified as incel forums, even though some incels use or used those sites. Current major incel internet forums are: [[Incels.co]], [[Facebook's Incelistan]], [[Incelistan.net]], [[Love-shy dot com|love-shy.com]], [[Incelswithouthate]], and [[Foreveralone]]. Roughly [[demographics of inceldom#Numbers|20-30% of American men between the ages of 18-30 are incels]]. | No mass murderers have been users of incel forums. Neither [[4chan]] nor [[PUAhate]] have self-identified as incel forums, even though some incels use or used those sites. Current major incel internet forums are: [[Incels.co]], [[Facebook's Incelistan]], [[Incelistan.net]], [[Love-shy dot com|love-shy.com]], [[Incelswithouthate]], and [[Foreveralone]]. Roughly [[demographics of inceldom#Numbers|20-30% of American men between the ages of 18-30 are incels]]. | ||
== | ==Umbrella term== | ||
Since the word ''incel'' is an umbrella term encompassing multiple demographics of people, people who fall under the definition of that word or self-describe as such won't be agreeing on its meaning. As expected, there remains disagreement in the [[incelosphere]] about whether the original definition provided in Donnelly Study is appropriate. [[Bluepill|Bluepillers]] argue in bad faith about such definitions, and say male incels could simply have gay sex or pay for a prostitute and therefore they are [[volcel|volcels]]. Hence, a definition in good faith would include an addition that incels are adults who are overwhelmingly rejected by the ''members of the sex they are sexually attracted to''. | |||
There is also angst about [[love-shyness]] technically counting as, "involuntary", often. [[Uglycel]]s complain that extreme love-shys may never show any evidence of will to find a partner. The infighting over whether to include [[love-shyness|love-shies]] in incel forums mainly hinges on the meaning of: involuntary, whether involuntary means "without choice" or "against will". However, the word involuntary can mean both, and both are different experiences. In an effort to weed out [[standardcel]]s, many incel forums reject incels who are not willfully trying to date a wide variety of people, or may even say they are not incels. In doing so, they often inandervatently marginalize non-standardcel mentalcels in the process. This is the source of a lot of conflict in the [[incelosphere]]. A solution to this longstanding conflict would be an incel definition that rejects [[standardcel]]s but includes non-[[standardcel]] [[mentalcel]]s as incel. This has been formalized before, but has not been popularized or adopted yet by any major forum, perhaps because such a definition would be very long. | There is also angst about [[love-shyness]] technically counting as, "involuntary", often. [[Uglycel]]s complain that extreme love-shys may never show any evidence of will to find a partner. The infighting over whether to include [[love-shyness|love-shies]] in incel forums mainly hinges on the meaning of: involuntary, whether involuntary means "without choice" or "against will". However, the word involuntary can mean both, and both are different experiences. In an effort to weed out [[standardcel]]s, many incel forums reject incels who are not willfully trying to date a wide variety of people, or may even say they are not incels. In doing so, they often inandervatently marginalize non-standardcel mentalcels in the process. This is the source of a lot of conflict in the [[incelosphere]]. A solution to this longstanding conflict would be an incel definition that rejects [[standardcel]]s but includes non-[[standardcel]] [[mentalcel]]s as incel. This has been formalized before, but has not been popularized or adopted yet by any major forum, perhaps because such a definition would be very long. |