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It's not even clear this is the first example, right? It's just the first google books result, but it may have been previously used in other documents that have not been digitalized yet. It's a fairly obvious term, so it is likely it has been reinvented multiple times. [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 07:02, 1 December 2019 (UTC) | It's not even clear this is the first example, right? It's just the first google books result, but it may have been previously used in other documents that have not been digitalized yet. It's a fairly obvious term, so it is likely it has been reinvented multiple times. [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 07:02, 1 December 2019 (UTC) | ||
:until someone else comes up with an earlier date, we may just have to settle on this[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 12:36, 1 December 2019 (UTC) | :until someone else comes up with an earlier date, we may just have to settle on this[[User:William|William]] ([[User talk:William|talk]]) 12:36, 1 December 2019 (UTC) | ||
:: but then it should be "the first known" or so, not "the first" (altmark is already changing this). as i said it is likely people have reinvented the term. for this reason it maybe more interesting to consider who popularized them term vs who used it first. [[User:Bibipi|Bibipi]] ([[User talk:Bibipi|talk]]) 13:28, 1 December 2019 (UTC) | |||