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==Relationship to the incelosphere== | ==Relationship to the incelosphere== | ||
The only forum tangential to incels Rodger appeared to be an active member of was [[PUAhate|PUAhate.com]], which at no point ever self-identified as an incel forum and had many people of every celibacy status. [[Rebecca]], a lesbian, former admin of [[IncelSupport]] thinks that Rodger was more a product of people's attitudes towards incels, than him being a reflection of incels. [[Alek Minassian]] was also arguably a reflection of how people see incels, rather than him being a reflection of something inherent about inceldom itself. Rebecca also tried to point out how cherrypicking violent celibates does not mean that inceldom is born from evil, as many (if not most) evil people have partners. According to [[Rebecca]]: | The only forum tangential to incels Rodger appeared to be an active member of was [[PUAhate|PUAhate.com]], which at no point ever self-identified as an incel forum and had many people of every celibacy status. [[Rebecca]], a lesbian, former admin of [[IncelSupport]] thinks that Rodger was more a product of people's attitudes towards incels, rather than him being a reflection of incels. In other words, Rodger built his persona off of people's (highly-negative) opinion of incels. [[Alek Minassian]] was also arguably a reflection of how people see incels, rather than him being a reflection of something inherent about inceldom itself. Rebecca also tried to point out how cherrypicking violent celibates does not mean that inceldom is born from evil, as many (if not most) evil people have partners. According to [[Rebecca]]: | ||
{{Quote|"Rodger just fed into what everyone really wants to believe about incels. Even in circles where the word 'incel' is not known, someone who does not attract others sexually is the butt of jokes. S/he will not be taken seriously and will be considered incapable of everything else, too. "S/he can't get a partner!" is frequently used as a reason to discredit a person's thoughts or abilities. More dangerously, incels are often the targets of false allegations, in part due to loneliness and vulnerability, but also due to lack of experience, and because they are not perceived as sexual beings. If they display even appropriate sexual behaviour, it makes others inexplicably uncomfortable. | {{Quote|"Rodger just fed into what everyone really wants to believe about incels. Even in circles where the word 'incel' is not known, someone who does not attract others sexually is the butt of jokes. S/he will not be taken seriously and will be considered incapable of everything else, too. "S/he can't get a partner!" is frequently used as a reason to discredit a person's thoughts or abilities. More dangerously, incels are often the targets of false allegations, in part due to loneliness and vulnerability, but also due to lack of experience, and because they are not perceived as sexual beings. If they display even appropriate sexual behaviour, it makes others inexplicably uncomfortable. | ||