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Some even suggest soon all women will be obsolete once science invents artificial wombs.
Some even suggest soon all women will be obsolete once science invents artificial wombs.
Critics of these solutions maintain that due to phenomena such as the "uncanny valley" effect, such experiences will prove to be, essentially, an elaborate form of masturbation, and will likely not serve as suitable substitutes for actual sex and companionship. Artificial wombs are also touted as a technological solution for incels who wish to reproduce without a willing female partner. Some blackpillers also view advances in the medical field of plastic surgery as a source of optimism, and claim widespread societal awareness of lookism—potentially leading to government subsidized plastic surgery for incels—would also present a possible solution to the problem.
Critics of these solutions maintain that due to phenomena such as the "uncanny valley" effect, such experiences will prove to be, essentially, an elaborate form of masturbation, and will likely not serve as suitable substitutes for actual sex and companionship. Artificial wombs are also touted as a technological solution for incels who wish to reproduce without a willing female partner. Some blackpillers also view advances in the medical field of plastic surgery as a source of optimism, and claim widespread societal awareness of lookism—potentially leading to government subsidized plastic surgery for incels—would also present a possible solution to the problem.
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'''Reducing hypergamy & online dating''': Substantial damage appears to be caused by women refusing to date men who are available. This may in part be due to being told to "grab opportunities, travel and keep your standards high" and that "the world is your oyster". Women appear to incite hypergamy in this manner, also by slutshaming (i.e. giving sex away too easily and hence loosing power over men by strategically withholding sex). One would need to establish social norms to discourage such behavior. By anti-tradcons such efforts are strawmanned/slippery-sloped to go full sexual Marxism/Fascism, but arguably there is a middle ground where simply very high standards are discouraged, but standards still exist.
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'''Genetic engineering''': Some argue only changing human nature itself can help, which would either require genetic engineering, thousands of years of selective breeding.<ref>https://just paste.it/3e767 remove the space in this link</ref> These are only long-term solutions and are very optimistic about continuing technological progress.
'''Genetic engineering''': Some argue only changing human nature itself can help, which would either require genetic engineering, thousands of years of selective breeding.<ref>https://just paste.it/3e767 remove the space in this link</ref> These are only long-term solutions and are very optimistic about continuing technological progress.
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'''Enforced monogamy & hierarchy''': Traditionalists like [[Jordan Peterson]] say the solution to the incel problem lies primarily in socially ''[[monogamy|enforcing monogamy]]'', but he opposes the complete abolition of women's emancipation. In his words, "the question is not if, but how".<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnEFt20qe0o</ref> Peterson believes social hierarchies are necessary for people to have certainty where they stand which he regards to be important for relationships to form because women [[hypergamy|date up and across the social hierarchy]]. Peterson says enforcing monogamy mainly works by cultural norms against promiscuity and divorce. Peterson emphasizes responsibility, "growing up", as well as holding frame, which many incels perceive as [[Chadsplaining]].
'''Enforced monogamy & hierarchy''': Traditionalists like [[Jordan Peterson]] say the solution to the incel problem lies primarily in socially ''[[monogamy|enforcing monogamy]]'', but he opposes the complete abolition of women's emancipation. In his words, "the question is not if, but how".<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnEFt20qe0o</ref> Peterson believes social hierarchies are necessary for people to have certainty where they stand which he regards to be important for relationships to form because women [[hypergamy|date up and across the social hierarchy]]. Peterson says enforcing monogamy mainly works by cultural norms against promiscuity and divorce. Peterson emphasizes responsibility, "growing up", as well as holding frame, which many incels perceive as [[Chadsplaining]].
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'''Reducing hypergamy & online dating''': Substantial damage appears to be caused by women refusing to date men who are available. This may in part be due to being told to "grab opportunities, travel and keep your standards high" and that "the world is your oyster". Women appear to incite hypergamy in this manner, also by slutshaming (i.e. giving sex away too easily and hence loosing power over men by strategically withholding sex). One would need to establish social norms to discourage such behavior. By anti-tradcons such efforts are strawmanned/slippery-sloped to go full sexual Marxism/Fascism, but arguably there is a middle ground where simply very high standards are discouraged, but standards still exist.
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'''Lowering women's status''': Women's [[hypergamy]] means that for each man there needs to be a woman of lower status. This implies, in order to reduce inceldom,  women's status relative to men needs to be lowered in general. Not necessarily as far that all women are below men, but many in the manosphere do advocate for this. Women definitely should not outeducate men as much as they do today.
'''Lowering women's status''': Women's [[hypergamy]] means that for each man there needs to be a woman of lower status. This implies, in order to reduce inceldom,  women's status relative to men needs to be lowered in general. Not necessarily as far that all women are below men, but many in the manosphere do advocate for this. Women definitely should not outeducate men as much as they do today.
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